Time for Us To Step Up
By Keith Boykin, in sexuality
Thursday, May 17 2007, 12:01PM
For the second time in a month, the New York Times is reporting on homeless LGBT youth, and once again we see that LGBT people of color are most at risk. Two weeks ago the Times reported on a New York homeless shelter for transgender youth. Today the Times is reporting on a homeless shelter for gay youth in Detroit. In each case, the people in the articles and the photographs are mostly black. That should concern us.
There's an old saying: "When white America catches a cold, black America gets pneumonia." It's meant to show the disparity between black and white in our country. But if that's the case, then there's another truth too. When black America gets pneumonia, black LGBT America goes on life support. That's why we need to be involved in the issues of our community.
How Black LGBT People Benefit
While we debate gay politics on the Internet, many LGBT people are still struggling and suffering in need. And a disproportionate number of these people are black and brown. That's why we don't have time to wait for anyone else to save us. We have to save ourselves.
Many blacks are understandably concerned about supporting mainstream gay organizations because they fear those organizations don't care about people of color. I hear the argument all the time. But there's another reality at work here too. I can't speak for every city, but many of the urban LGBT organizations that provide direct services in big cities are mostly servicing people of color.
I first realized this phenomenon in Washington, D.C. in the 1990s when I volunteered to work for a group called the Sexual Minority Youth Assistance League (SMYAL). I was stunned to discover that the overwhelming majority of the LGBT youth were black and Latino. It all made sense, however, because Washington is a majority-black city.
When I moved to New York in 2001, I quickly learned about the Harvey Milk School, run by the Hetrick-Martin Institute. The gay high school weathered a major media storm in September 2003 after the New York Post ran a sensationalistic series of articles condemning the idea of a school for gay teenagers. But when I went to the school to cover the protest on the first day of class, I discovered that the director of the Institute was black and that most of the students in the school were black or Latino. Since that time, I've gone back every year to Harvey Milk to speak at the annual Career Day on campus, and I am continually impressed by the work the school does.
The issue of black representation also came up for me when I first heard about the New York City AIDS Walk, which by the way will take place this weekend. Coming from Washington, where blacks were disproportionately affected by the AIDS epidemic but black organizations were dramatically underfunded compared to mainstream groups, I was concerned.
A mainstream organization called Gay Men's Health Crisis sponsors AIDS Walk here in New York City. But it's not just the mainstream who benefit. Community-based organizations like the New York State Black Gay Network and Harlem United receive a portion of the money collected from this huge city-wide fundraiser. That's critically important.
It's also important that GMHC is run by a black lesbian woman, Dr. Marjorie Hill, who has been at the forefront of the black LGBT movement for decades. Last year I spoke to the entire staff at GMHC and this year I toured the facility with Dr. Hill. She told me that the overwhelming majority of the clients at GMHC are black and Latino. Looking around the building, I could see what she meant. I saw people who look just like me sitting in the cafeteria for the free lunches, working on their resumes in the computer lab and walking into the various support group meetings.
Whether or not we realize it, LGBT people of color are the biggest beneficiaries of many of the community's direct services organizations, and those of us who are concerned about our community have an obligation to get involved in whatever meaningful way we can.
Supporting Our Own Organizations
It's easy to assume that black and brown people are not affected by what goes on in the gay community, but that's not the case. We're affected more often than we know. That has also been the case with the controversial issue of marriage equality. Some advocates mistakenly portrayed marriage as a middle-class white issue, and in so doing they turned off a big group of potential supporters among people of color. "Gay marriage is just a pet issue so some rich white gay men can be more privileged," a college student told me recently.
To listen to the media, marriage certainly does seem to be a mainstream white issue. But it's not the rich white guys who need the help. It's about the working-class black lesbian couple, like Alicia and Saundra in Newark, who don't have the money to afford an expensive lawyer just so that one can visit the other in the hospital. And it's about the black gay couple, like Alvin and Nigel in Maryland, who just want to be able to raise their young son in a world free of discrimination.
Yes, it is easy to sit on the sidelines and complain about the gay community. There is so much to complain about, after all. But it is not as easy to do something about it. Don't let anybody mislead you to believe that black people are not affected by the so-called "gay agenda" or by the work of LGBT community-based organizations. We are affected, and it's important for us to be engaged when decisions by these groups affect our people.
It is also important to put your money where your mouth is. I have read a lot of comments in the blogosphere over the years where black LGBT people complain about white gay groups. That's fine, but that shouldn't be the end of it. And yet many of those complainers never bother to support black gay organizations either. I know because I've worked for one and helped to start another, and in each case the black LGBT community has been slow to support its own. Once we do support our own organizations, they won't continue to struggle the way they do. And maybe that's the lesson here.
It's great to have a forum on the Internet where we can sound off on whatever issues get us mad. But don't let that be the end of your involvement. You don't have to lead an organization or lift a picket sign to be involved. You can volunteer for a local organization, write a check to a cause, or find a young person to mentor. If you care about your community, by all means, do something -- anything -- in addition to posting a comment on a blog.
I realize that some people reading this are already involved, and if that's the case, thank you. But if you're not involved, now is the opportunity to do so. If you don't like what's going on in your own community, then get involved to change it. If you do appreciate what's happening, then get involved to support it.
Comments conceal
mike
May 17 2007, 12:25PM
Keith - thanks for adding this today. i read the article earlier this morning, and listened to the interactive link and cried...WE need to step up. there are efforts in my city to build a center for glbt youth of color where they can get support - housing, job training, etc.
Blue
May 17 2007, 12:33PM
Ditto ... I've never even heard of the organization you mentioned that's here in DC. I'd like to volunteer for them, if possible. I was telling a friend I wanted to do some volunteer work in literacy, so this may be my shot. Good job Keith.
Nyah
May 17 2007, 1:12PM
Dear Blue:
I am from DC and SMYAL is a great organization in which you can volunteer. I wish I would have known of the place when I was young.
Luther
May 17 2007, 4:15PM
Powerful post today Keith, and its one that I have often thought about. I won't support any of the white glbt groups at all since their gay issues have nothing to do with mine ,but, have tried to find groups that actually care about gays of color, but, they seem to be so far and few, that I usually end up doing nothing in regards to issues that affect me as a black gay man. I'm going to have to look harder and start doing more.
Liquid Fonts
May 17 2007, 4:48PM
It sounds like he saying it's not enough to merely express interest in black gay issues but that there is actually some kind of moral obligation shared by all Black LGBT ppls alike to get involved on a more meaninful level just as one would have a moral obligation to not just stand by and watch a crime unfold but to do what one can to prevent it.
James
May 17 2007, 6:25PM
I read this article this morning and my heart was broken, especially by the young woman whose family member tried to rape her to "straighten" her out.If there is anyone reading in TN; I have been seriously thinking about turning one of my rental homes into a shelter of sorts -- or at least very cheap housing that LGBT teens and young adults could afford. A place to stay while they finish school or build a work history and save money to get on their feet. I have been too busy to be able to do more than the research though I've been making needed repairs to the home. If anyone is in TN, especially East TN, and would like to work on a project like this, e-mail me from by blog.
Kevin Quinn
May 17 2007, 7:56PM
Indeed, I was reading the article this morning thinking to myself, like Rufus Wainwright's new song "Going to a Town", "I'm sick of you, America." Keith, you raise some good points about the need to be concerned about LGBT youth of color, but this problem of endangered LGBT youth trascends all color lines--particularly in America. The article's major point, it seems to me, is to highlight the fact that we still live in a country in which hating in the name of Jesus is perfectly acceptable. That is, people are allowed to make a distinction between gay homeless people and those that are straight. Further, parents (no doubt inflicted by religiously sanctioned bigotry) feel entirely justified in kicking their children out of the home if they don't conform to by now extinct notions of normalcy. God (and that would be the one who loves) help us all.
Mark Corece
May 17 2007, 11:10PM
I hope the lack of comments are due to the extreme amount of people out trying to help our youth out.
Sayword?
May 18 2007, 1:02AM
This was a powerful article, something that needs to be brought to light. It touched me simply because I, like James am from TN. Starting a shelter or some type of support for our youth and young adults sounds like a wonderful idea, or atleast donating to one that already up and running. This ironically was something I wanted to do when I am done contracting overseas. Thanks for the article Keith.
Derrick from Philly
May 18 2007, 9:51AM
Mark: The "extreme lack of comments" may be due to the fact that there's nothing to disagree with in Keith's essay or the message in it. You have what you see above, posters supporting the message. I do try to contribute monetarily (what I can) to black gay organizations--usually at black gay pride events(because that's when I come into contact with those who are actively soliciting for funds).
As for personally getting involved with gay youth, that's a little more complicated. I am 49. If there are youth outreach workers who can help me( and other older folks who need it) to learn to communicate with young folks then I might give it a try. There is a generation gap in the black homosexual world just as there is in rest of the world. If I believed my participation would be of value then I might be a little less hesitant about personal involvement.
Blue
May 18 2007, 10:19AM
Derrick ... I can't speak for anybody else, but I love to speak to experienced gentlemen like yourself. I'm almost 28, and I have learned a lot from guys like you, both black and white. Some of the anecdotes have been heartbreaking (the early AIDS epidemic, family rejection, etc.) and others have been a scream (carefree bomb-ass sex, fab clubs, fab disco music, etc.), and I think all of those things are an important part of who we are as gay men. I think young folks will be more receptive to you than you might think, because I think it's important for them to know that what they are going through is not that different at the base level that what older people were up against. Just from reading the posts you leave here, I can tell you have a lot of great things to say. And with the humorous twist you put on shit, I think you'd be surprised how people might react. :-)
Derrick from Philly
May 18 2007, 11:40AM
Thanks, Blue:
You gave me the incentive to use these new hip joints and go on down to the William Way Center or The Attic (the two organizations which serve gay youth here in Philly). Maybe they can find something for me to do.
I guess it's best if I go sober, hunh? I will, and I sure won't be sashayin'--not with these stiff-ass new hip joints.
Natalia
May 18 2007, 6:18PM
I don't think civic disengagement is unique to the black LGBT community. As Robert Putnam discusses in "Bowling Alone," America as a whole could care less about volunteering or helping out. The difference in the black LGBT community is that black LGBT causes won't necessarily receive funding and/or volunteer help from non black-LGBT individuals and groups. So it becomes a question of "if we don't help ourselves, who will?"
I understand people are busy working, trying to get by, etc. but the fact remains that we spend time and money on things that are important to us. The black community in general fails to give back in appreciable numbers to things that are non-material, think of Morris Brown closing and other HBCUs being in financial trouble.
Natalia
May 18 2007, 7:06PM
Finally, I wish people would stop making excuses and instead develop valid plans of action. I am a graduate student who made $23,000 this year and I live in a very expensive coastal city, yet I somehow manage to give back financially to the causes that I consider important and I have found time to mentor a fabulous young, black gay male who will be starting college in the fall. I suspect many more people could do the same.
Corrigendum: Morris Brown College has not yet closed but it is definitely in serious financial trouble and will probably close for good in the near future.
Natalia
titi
May 19 2007, 10:27AM
Here we goes again saying less about the root cause of the problem. Coming out is what many gay activist ARE BEEN preaching over the years, without measuring the consequence of such action in the life of a young black men and women. The consequence of came out when not ready to defend YOURSELF neither against families bigoteries nor the street cruauty CAN BE DOWN RIGHT horrible.I am very outraged by comminuty members who preached this things with no regard to such consequence.COMING OUT IS NOT A SLUMBER PARTY.IT'S A VERY SERIOUS STEP WITH GREAT CONSEQUENCES IF NOT LUCKY.IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY OPEN THE DOOR OF HAPPINESS OR PEACE OF MIND.I think we need to support this young men while keeping them home.They don't need to come out to their families unless ready to do so, where by education job and housing is taking care of FIRST.A comminuty base institution to supervise those kids in the low dow is much better than what we are dealing with now.Let's not make martyrs then cry over them when they are bleeding.
J
May 19 2007, 11:01AM
Thank you for that statement TITI.
I really wish some sgl's would stop acting as if coming out is necessary to live. It's a small part of who you are and it's also no one's business but your own. People who have a problem with those that aren't waving a flag either don't realize how lucky they are or don't want to suffer alone.
algie
May 19 2007, 11:44AM
this is why i'm going to school in the fall of this year so i can create a community center for brothas like this as well as hiv+, it is so needed.this proves we can never have too many of these shelters.to a world sick with the idea that putting loved ones on the street straight or gay is the way to go....get well soon
M
May 19 2007, 1:29PM
Natalia,
You hit the nail on the head. It isn't about not coming out or coming out. The issue is about the possibilities and potentials for black SGL people. Creating more possibilities. We need to create "mentor the would-be mentor" type of support groups for those of us who have wanted to give back systematically, leveraging our dollar/time/talents with other's. Nobody wants to get into and feel alone in something that is full of drama (egos, disorder, tooth-pulling etc.).
J
May 19 2007, 3:32PM
This sort of discussion is not about encouraging GLBT people to support eachother more and create a stronger community. The white gays who want a struggle and who chant, "being out is living," want to call attention to those homeless because of pride. I'm amazed that black people are a part of this nonsense. I hope more young sgl people will see through it all and not end up out there.
btw
Where's the concern for homeless young people regardless of orientation who escaped abuse or who were thrown out simply because they exist?
M
May 19 2007, 8:43PM
J, National Black Justice Committee is about black gay people. Dr. Marjorie Hill is a black gay person. The youth in need are black gay people. Do you have an issue with focusing on a particular population of youth in need, in this case services for black gay youth?
The fact that youth in need get shafted at some services because they are SGL is an issue worth the attention that it is getting. Black youth have a spiritual right to be honest to themselves about their orientation and to those who claim to be their loved ones without attracting mistreatment.
My take on this is that the efforts of NBJC, GMHC, PFLAG's efforts to straight parents of color and groups and services *ultimately* benefit not only black youth and adults of color, but all youth and adults regardless of orientation.
Ron Lee
May 19 2007, 10:17PM
I agree Keith,those who complain should be the first to volunteer to help the SGL cause and the Black Community at large. Indeed the white gay agenda still affects us. Black SGL' should be as shwred starting organizations which provide services to the community,yet benifit them professionaly & socially as do our white comrades. "SMYAL" ancronym SEXUAL gives the wrong connotation for OUR KIDS."MINORITY", is that code to tell white kids don't show up at their door step. Maybe they could have used SENSITIVE & MATURE and not stigmatize the kids. A quarter of the kids at these shelters are sgl anyway,all this dose is take them out of the Community and create a cadre of minority youth that may identify with the white gay agenda. PEACE OUT.
Derrick_the other one
May 20 2007, 3:56PM
Titi, I hope I am not misreading your comment but are you asserting that “coming out” is the root cause of gay, lesbian, and transgender homelessness? I find it interesting that you are turning the onus upon the individuals who have been victimized. While I absolutely respect the right of every individual to not disclose their respective sexualities/and or gender presentations; however, for those individuals who choose not to abide by societal proscriptions I must support them. This support is extended unconditionally even to individuals who “are not ready to defend [themselves].”
I am curious as to what such defenses would look like? Being sheltered? Being financially independent? Having these things, I do not believe, will protect anyone from “family bigotry” nor the “cruelty” or the streets. Their youth simply compounds their lack of safe shelter and financial independence. While I have different problems with the political stance of “coming out,” our youth should not be blamed if they refuse to
Derrick_the other one
May 20 2007, 4:32PM
pretend to be straight or if they refuse a gender presentation that had been prescribed for them rather than the one they feel comes from within.
Ron Lee
May 20 2007, 9:16PM
Ones sexual identity is indeed personal,by that same token no one should be defining their sexuality while still a minor. There is a lot of growth which occurs after your coming out process. Minors should be encouraged to believe in themselves get an education or a skill which can inable them to take care of themselves. Ones sexuality can not be contained and there will be aple time to explore it. But,to stigmatize a youth organization with a "SEXUAL" implication in it's name sake is asking for trouble. There are GAY & STR8 adults I wouldn't want nowhere near these kids. PEACE OUT... The folks who started this organization would not have left that"sexual" connotation in it's name sake, had it been a white youth organization. IT'S DOWN RIGHT INFLAMMATORY !!!
Derrick from Philly
May 21 2007, 10:11AM
Actually, those gay young people who are "out" at age twelve, ten, nine, are usually gay young people who couldn't hide if they tried. Long before their sexual feeling becomes an issue in their lives, their gender role indentification is what causes controversy. They are labled "gay" long before they become actively sexual. Highschool programs & youth organizations which serve this segment of young gay population are necessary if those young gay people are to continue their education. Also, pressure on school districts to protect these young people is necessary. That "kids will be kids" attitude doesn't work here. If you're being tortured by other kids, teachers, NTAs, and school administrators it becomes impossible to go to school every day. They drop out.
It's funny how people refuse to believe that a child could be gay at age 9 or 7 years old. This little boy did this magnificent imitation of Beyonce on Youtube. Everybody felt the need to say, "he aint gay yet." Why?
Kenyon
May 21 2007, 11:08AM
I agree with the general idea that we need to be more involved, but the answer cannot all be about social service organizations. Only a small number of people will ever make it to those organizations. Here in NYC the Ali Forney Center I believe has a formal mentorship program. So I think we gotta support the orgs, but we also have to just get involved in folk's lives. You don't have to do it through an organization, but that helps.
In addition to that, what ever happened to us, who are older, having "gay children?" I have been a gay mother/father since I was in my mid 20s to black and brown teenage youth. MY children are all in their early 20s now and doing well, and I know it's time for me to get involved in some other young people's lives.
Since many of these youth are thrown out of their homes, or come from homes with varying levels of dysfunction, we need to be those surrogate families that provide some sense of a loving caring community, and helps to provide some basic life management skills.
Luther
May 21 2007, 1:10PM
Derrick from Philly, you are right in the sense that some who come out as kids do it mainly as they have no way to keep their sexuality private for whatever reason. I'm in my 40's, and am not in a closet, nor out of one. If, you ask me, I will tell you that I'm a homosexual, a term I prefer over gay, but, I won't lie about it. I do think that the whole coming out experience is a personal one, but, for me, its never been a factor as to who I am as a black man who knew I like "boys" the first day of school when I wanted a cute kid named Ricky for my boyfriend, even though thinking back, I did not really know what it actually meant to have a boyfriend.
But, all that said, my heart bleeds for these young kids who are thrown out into the vicious streets, I know for a fact that had I been thrown out at 15 or 16, I would have never survived as even to this day, I'm not all that street smart. I hope and pray that they can survive with efforts of people who want to help.
Ron Lee
May 21 2007, 7:55PM
To Derrick,no 5,6,7 or 9yr.old is OUT or GAY. Due to the fact they are minors they can not and should not be defined as such. What Black Organization,Institution Gay or Straight recognizing a childs' SEXUALITY? Mind you a child may have gender identity issues,but identifying oneself as a sexual being occurs when one becomes of age. COME TOWARD THE LIGHT. Listen to what you are saying, I think that white gay agenda gotcha. PEACE OUT.
yeahisaidit
May 21 2007, 10:02PM
...argue semantics all you want Ron Lee, Derrick has some valid insight here (i don't think he is promoting underage promiscuity or fornication...) the light is education and knowledge...and mind YOU those gender identity issues are paramount and are a major concern...please don't confuse sexual orientation with filth or some gay white agenda...just maybe repressive religious dogma or some such got you...i ain't mad at'cha, but let's open greater and more honest dialogue and understanding about ourselves as people, young, old and in between and move onward and upwards...!
Luther
May 21 2007, 10:28PM
Hey Ron Lee, while I do agree with you to a point, check out this week's Newsweek magazine which is about gender idenity, and how young kids start questioning it.
J
May 22 2007, 9:19AM
No one's gay at 7. You can't pop wood. Children are labeled gay all the time for the most ridiculous reasons and in many cases it has nothing to do with how they walk. Yes, there are little boys and girls that are swishy or butch, but at that point in their lives there is no way someone can say that's indicative of who or what they are. If you think that way I feel sorry for the youth around you that can't be themselves and explore. Children don't need to be slapped with any labels or held to some identity standard. Kids questioning their identities is part of normal development. It has little to nothing to do with one's orientation.
All people are capable of having privacy and if you feel differently maybe you should be helping those young people rather than encouraging them to live this way.
Derrick from Philly
May 22 2007, 9:48AM
Ron and J:
"Gay" to a segment of the homosexual world has much more meaning than what one does sexually. Many of us not only acted "gay" at an early age (which usually means feminine for boys, masculine for girls), we also had "crushes" on members of the same sex as earlier than kindergarden. I've learned from meeting homosexual people over the years(and from the sharing of feelings/beliefs on this blog) that most homosexual (or sgl) folks did not have what is now called a "gay" identity as children--a self-acknowledgement of being a faggot, a dyke. And I respect those differences between us. But many of us did/do accept being a sissy or a tomboy early on, and that's who youth programs and special schools like Harvey Milk are especially aimed at.
In 1969, Life and Look magazines both did articles on the gay liberation movement. I was 11, I knew they were talking about people like me...imitating Judy Garland in 1963 at five, aint that gay?
J
May 22 2007, 12:14PM
You can't say that a child is "acting gay" because they don't fit some silly mold. For every "sissy" or "tomboy"(however people define those nonsense terms)that grows up and finds that they're sgl there are a thousand that don't. Gay may be a fairly diverse term, but there's no need to associate that with children. They're constantly developing and something they're doing or feeling today won't mean anything tomorrow and certainly doesn't define them.
Derrick from Philly
May 22 2007, 1:45PM
"...there's no need to associate that with children."
For every biographical literary/film/video work I've ever seen with a transgendered person as the subject, one of the initial themes is, "I've been like this ever since I can remember." Self-indentification must be the key factor involved for those of us who claim that we were gay as children--even though we didn't know the term "gay"(or in my case, the term "gay" wasn't even in wide use)our behavior was different--it didn't bother us to be "boys who acted like girls." What bothered us was how we were treated because of our behavior. We were aware at an early age that we were dramatically different from other boys in our view of gender role expectations and sexual attraction.
One may say, but what about the majority of homosexual/sgl people who never had gender identity issues? Well, I'm not sure y'all need special schools or programs to get through childhood and adolescents-- nobody knows you're a gay child--like you said.
J
May 23 2007, 9:01AM
Someone stated that one of the things we should be doing is pushing for an environment in school that doesn't encourage certain behavior. Gay/str8 alliances are popping up in high schools, but there needs to be some sort of program/organization in schools at the middle and elementary level that informs young people in an age appropriate way. That as well as adding certain things to the curriculum should almost eliminate many of those problems, but encouraging children to behave in certain ways towards their peers isn't a gay issue. Children and adults will give kids hell for any and every reason and again young people who don't conform should not be considered gay. That's something adults and children need to learn. Special schools or the types of programs some have mentioned are not necessary. It's a matter of those who see the problem addressing it in a practical way.
titi
May 23 2007, 11:12AM
Brother Derrick I never blamed this kids for coming out. They are victims, often misinformed and let down.I only outlined my outrage at the culture of DOGMATIC BELIEVE IN (COMING OUT) as the miraculous solution for all gays, which often ignore the plight of this vulnerable young black girls and boys.Don't just encourage a young black gay to come out when you don't have the means to take care of him when things go wrong.So our responsabilities as adults is to warn and give them the sort of advise and support that wouldn't push them over the edge (The street).Teach them that coming out is much easier when you no longer depend on mom and dad to shelter and feed you,and rushing into such decision has it danger.The fact is that very few of this young kids will survive the slaughter of the street. Humain predators and diseases are going to take their shares,and the survivors scared physically and emotionally for life.In that case, what kind of black gay adults are we nurturing for the futur??????
Derrick from Philly
May 23 2007, 2:59PM
Thanks, titi:
I understand and appreciate your message. You're right, NO ONE should be pressured to "come out", especially young people who are at the mercy of unsympathetic--maybe even hostile adults. And J, you are correct that no child should be labeled. I was talking/writing about those children that even if they tried to "fit in" with everyone else in the neighborhood, at school, at church; they cannot go un-noticed because they are gender role rebels. My comments were about those of us who SELF-INDENTIFIED ourselves as what we now call "gay" at a very young age. The insults of "sissy and faggot" were almost accepted status titles for us. We didn't know what to call ourselves.
A few weeks ago, Keith presented the topic of "coming out". I read everyone's comments, but wondered if y'all understood that for some of us there never was a "coming out" process or event. We were "out" for as long as we can remember...nothing to feel proud or superior about--just a different experience.
Derrick_the other one
May 25 2007, 12:31PM
Titi,
Your response is much appreciated and I definitely feel you.
Derrick from Philly
May 25 2007, 2:05PM
Oooops, Titi:
How presumptuous of me. I should remember there other Derricks in this world, and the other Derrick usually writes with much more clarity than me. But I got passion!
Well, both Derricks appreciate your thoughtful and insightful last comment.
Derrick_the other one
May 26 2007, 4:21PM
Derrick from Philly,
You write with much clarity- I learn so much from you. Actually, I love your postings.
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