Noah's Arc Canceled; Film Planned Instead

Cadence
January 25 2007, 10:17AM

I've heard many people say that Noah's Arc is the only show that they watch on LOGO. I think this was the main problem. LOGO probably thought why should they keep spending money on a show, if its viewers are gone to tune out the rest of the programming on the network, especially when they can use the money to build up an audience who will be more loyal to the network. I doubt NA had a large crossover audience; remember last year when Keith was on the year in review, the other panelist didn't seem to know what he was talking about when he mentioned the show.

I'll be sad to see NA off the air,and I won't hold my breath for a movie. Hopefully LOGO won't go the route of it's sister networks and drop programming with diverse cssts. Judging by it's upcoming shows, this just may happen.

jay
January 25 2007, 10:28AM

If the cast members of Noah’s arc were drug addict, gay black prostitutes that called themselves niggers or niggas every week, I am sure the show would have lasted, I cannot begin to describe how disappointed I am and shocked, unfortunately with the hatred so evident in Black culture and African culture a show featuring gay black men will get no support whatsoever from the black gay community at large, unbelievable, just unbelievable and extremely sad.

My hope is that when Ellen was canceled it ushered the way for Will and Grace, I hope Noah’s Arc ushers in more shows featuring gay black men in all of their beauty.
And if Patrik-Ian Polk and the cast member of Noah’s Arc happen to read this, I for one want you to know that I am extremely grateful for the show and will never find the words to express what the show means to me.

Frank
January 25 2007, 10:36AM

I have started an online petition to bring back Noah's Arc:
http://www.petitiononline.com/noah/

I hope this does some good!

Tor're Sanz
January 25 2007, 10:43AM

I'm one of those people who only watched the logo channel for Noah's Arc to be honest with you. I ordered the network from my cable subscriber when I learned the show would be airing every week. I then took notice at the other shows logo had airing, I enjoyed the "Coming Out" stories & also the "Wedding Planner" show, which no longer airs on the network. I like the music videos on NewNowNext, but I have to be honest...I probably will end up cancelling the network now, because I can't understand how their most popular show has been cancelled. I am very disappointed in the network, this show gave me something to look forward to, I lived through the characters of Noah's Arc, I could relate to them and so could my friends who learned about the network through me. Most of them watch logo 24 hours a day and not just for that show. I'm sure now they'll be tuning out, just like me!

Rockinrob
January 25 2007, 10:44AM

Can't you smell it???? It's called BULLSHIT!

What get's me is that we are supposed to be just that stupid to believe the "reasons" that are being stated when they make absolutely no sense.

Keith, rarely do I disagree with you, but you can "not rush to judgement" all you want, but I believe that you know within yourself that there is some straight-up BULLSHIT in the mix! LOL. Like my grandmomma used to say...."Sump'in in that milk aint clean!"

Just my opinion.

PEACE.

Brandon
January 25 2007, 10:50AM

I think this is a bad decision on the part of LOGO. Noah's Arc is their best show, and also one of the prime reasons why people subscribe to Direct TV in order to receive LOGO. Now, with Noah's departure from the network, I'm seriously considering dropping Direct TV. Also, with Noah gone, we are left with almost no representation of black gay men on television. I share the hope with Jay, that this will usher in a new show.

Robert
January 25 2007, 10:52AM

Well, there's absolutely no reason for me to watch LOGO anymore. My sincere hope is that they fill the void left by Noah's Arc. Otherwise, it was nice knowing you LOGO!

Greg
January 25 2007, 10:54AM

Just a shame, a shame! After a season and a half? But, I don't know how they think this show would ever be able to make it on the big screen? It, seems like it will be a straight to DVD movie, since I don't see it as a crossover like the "Brokeback Mountain" movie turned out to be.

So much for diversity at Logo, the new line up is typical of most things run by the white gays, lily white with a scattering of faces of color to prove they are inclusive. Not worth my coins anymore.

Andre Allen
January 25 2007, 11:12AM

The powers that be at LOGO are ass holes and should be ashamed of themselves for letting a show like Noah's Arc go. everyone should sign franks petition to bring the show back i dont understand why its the 2nd year in a row we have to petition to keep the most watched show on LOGO on the air. Straight, Gay, Black or White everyone is watching the show and it needs to come back. There are so many unanswered questions that have everyone left like what the fuck. sign the petition and bring the show back. www.petitiononline.com/noah

chicagoangel
January 25 2007, 11:16AM

I read it was suffering from bad ratings. Just because its a popular show for thw few doesn't mean the ratings are great or that it has crossover appeal, which a show needs. Aww welll...

Bernie
January 25 2007, 11:18AM

I think we should all write to LOGO and let them know, we won't be watching their network any more. There is no longer any reason.

C. Baptiste-Williams
January 25 2007, 11:21AM

I upgraded my cable package when Noah's Arc was on just so that I could see it... and when the season ended I downgraded.

Needless to say I won't be upgrading or supporting the channel. It is apparent that gay African Americans are not in there target audience.

deejay
January 25 2007, 11:26AM

Didn't Fox, WB, and UPN initially build their respective viewer bases with black audiences? I'm old enough to remember the launch of In Living Color, Robert Townsend (yes, he had a show of a red-hot minute), Roc, Steve Harvey, among others. I'm talking pre-Gilmore Girls, Party of Five, Everwood, Smallville, etc.

This is the same soup but in a slightly different bowl. Only now the strategy was targeted a black gay audience for an obscure subsidiary of an established cable network.

I seem to recall that the President of MTV is a black woman, Christina Norman. Not that it matters when the bottom line driver is GREEN, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

algie
January 25 2007, 11:36AM

i don't know what else to say but that i feel played by the logo channel. i will show mtv just how happy i am to hear this news by canceling my mtv channels which i never really watched to begin with. i only watched logo for noah's arc.man it felt so good to see me finally represented in a way where it wasn't about bein on the dl or hiv this and hiv that.man it hurts typin this

Warren
January 25 2007, 11:38AM

I think the drama surrounding "Noah's Arc" has always been more interesting than the show itself. Who could forget Polk's deliciously infamous "Fuck GLAAD" rant not too long ago? Now, with very few facts, comes the knee-jerk finger-pointing and accusations of injustice. In that vein, cancellation may be the best thing that's ever happened to this show. Emotional reactions are always far more entertaining than intellectual ones.

James
January 25 2007, 11:49AM

Well well. I'm not going to waste page space by reiterrating everthing that's been said. I cancelled my DISH subscription for Direct TV once the show came out, and I recorded every episode of the first season on VHS, bought the first season when it came out on DVD (gave the first season I recorded on VHS to my "gurr"...me and all my homies watched the show), and then recorded the entire second season on VHS. I obviously love the show. I have been lying in wait to hear of the launch of the third season, but I am now tremendously grieving to hear that the show has been cancelled. It's obvious that someone's trying to make some money; but, common sense would tell me that if that was my cause, then I'd better stick to what's already making the money instead of taking a risk that may otherwise not pay its dividends. Like Keith, I'm lying in wait to see how the cookie crumbles.

Vee
January 25 2007, 11:55AM

This is some fucked up bullshit. First LOGO was talking about coming back for a third season, now they are not. This is some bullshit. LGO has fucked up now.

Karl
January 25 2007, 12:01PM

As usual, there's a lot of speculation here, but here's what I've gleened from various sources, including statements from Logo, blogs, etc.

Logo is a small network with a small operating budget. The fact that it is a subsidiary of MTV/Viacom makes no difference. It is still a small niche network with a smaller reach. To date, the network is available in about 20 million homes. That means the network does not get rated by Neilsen. A network has to be in more than 24 million homes to qualify for the ratings system. So until Logo is picked up by more cable providers, they will not be rated.

So Noah's Arc was not cancelled due to low ratings, because they don't get rated yet. Besides, Logo has acknowledged that NOAH is their most popular show, and as their only scripted series to date, that makes sense. This sounds like a financial decision. Logo doesn't have the funds to continue this show, so they're doing a movie, which is probably cheaper to produce than a full season of episodes. It still sucks though.

Thomas T.,Germany
January 25 2007, 12:09PM

I was really shocked when I read that Noah's Arc was cancelled.I live in Germany and can't get LOGO,so the only way to watch it,is buy the dvd's.I still have season 1 on dvd and can't wait for season 2 (hopefully).I really must say I'm glad that I can't get LOGO,if I would have a subscription I would immediately cancel it.Isn't it possible that Mr.Polk filming more seasons but straight on dvd ? I don't want to wait for a movie.What pisses me off too,is that when I wrote LOGO earlier this year,they didn't tell me that they want to cancel the show.They wrote that this is the best show on LOGO they wave.I hope we could see more seasons of Noah's Arc,because this is for me the best gay show with African/American men I ever saw.I also signed the petition and hope that this works for us.

Mark
January 25 2007, 12:09PM

Well, if this is true and does come to pass, I am taking Logo off my cable service. Noah's Arc was the only reason I had the damn station in the first place. Looks like they are just following in the same footsteps as the rest of Hollywood. Man, and they try to create/change the way "diversity" is shown on TV, and for equality, what hypocrites.

Mike
January 25 2007, 12:13PM

I am really disappointed to hear this news. In fact, I have not had cable television since 2000 and just ordered it solely to watch Noah's Arc on a regular basis as I enjoyed watching the first season on DVD. Thankfully, I have enough time to cancel my installation order.

LOGO - Re-consider this decision especially in light of the arrival of HereTV and the DL Chronicles.

Blue
January 25 2007, 12:25PM

If this is true, I'm getting rid of LOGO ASAP. This show was the only reason I got it to begin with.

Jerry
January 25 2007, 12:28PM

Keith:

I have to correct you on one thing. THE SIMPSONS movie is finished and being released this summer. It's one of the big summer blockbuster releases planned for this year. The trailer/teaser is playing in theatres and you can also view it online. And supposedly, the Sex and the City film is back on again after the last actress holding out, Kim Cattrell, has signed on.

This is fucked up. I loved the show and am sad to see it go. But hopefully they will do a film, which could be a good thing. A movie could take the show to a more mainstream audience that doesn't get Logo or would be unlikely to watch a gay & lesbian network. Yes, the DL crowd will be afraid to go to a theatre to check it out, but so what?

Patrik Polk commented on actor Jensen Atwood's myspace blog that he was disappointed in the cancellation but rather than bitch and moan, he was choosing to make lemons into lemonade with this movie opportunity. Let's hope it is a big success that shows Hollywood the viability of blk GLBT stories.

blue
January 25 2007, 12:56PM

This could also be the result of all the fussing and complaining about the show that has gone on in various blogs and boards. People need to realize networks DO read that shit and take it seriously. What a shame. The "no fats, no fems" homos strike again.

TK
January 25 2007, 1:11PM

As a black gay female I admit I am dismayed by the news of Noah’s Arc’s cancellation. I have always believed that the show’s storyline transcended my expectations and provided excellent examples of positive imageries of beautiful African-American gay men. The existence of the show made me feel inclusive in the gay community – so many times the faces of our culture rarely looks like me (female or male, black and gay). I am optimistic that the success of Noah’s Arc will be the foundation for other successful producers, writers and actors the opportunity to showcase Our Stories and Our Experiences.

Louis
January 25 2007, 1:15PM

I think most us of have come to understand the business model that is used. All new networks focus on targeting the Black community because we are television junkies. We generate enough ratings to attract various advertisers. Noah's Arc helped launch the network. At first, I was not a fan of the show, but as time went on I became hook. Instead of begging for the show to be put back on we all should hit LOGO's pocket book. Cancel your subscription though your local cable provider. Set-up a writing campaign to boycott any major advertiser on the network. Logo needs to learn a lesson from this situation. Actually, I am amazed that the actors have been relatively quite about the situation.

anotherbrother
January 25 2007, 1:25PM

i had a feeling that the show would not last because in each season they were given only 8 or 9 episodes, so that right there hipped me to logo's commitment; the commitment just 'wasnt' there! with a show like this that has such a positive impact in the black gay community it seems that 'logo' wasn't 'capable' or 'willing' to be a catalyst with regard to "black-gay-men" or men-of-color; for them it seems more of a burden and less of a charge to change peoples' perceptions about men of the diaspora! this is truly sad but historically this has been our relationship to the gay community at-large, as usual the lesson learned is that we must "must" support and depend ourselves!!!

Ty
January 25 2007, 1:28PM

Preach on it Louis, CANCEL the network, why pay for something that offers nothing of interest to our community? Other than a few dance video clips? And, notify the sponsors of some of the new and I would venture a guess LAME shows they are trotting out. The actors aren't going to say anything, what can they say? Say anything negative, and they will be left out of the upcoming "blockbuster" movie event. And, Hollywood has a way of making sure you never work in that town if you complain, so, I can say I do respect their silence.

I fully understand that it was a business thing, but, why wait until the last minute, and after only showing 8, get that 8 episodes of the second season, and leave it with a cliff hanger, at least have the courtesy to tie up the loose ends, as if anyone is going to care when the movie comes out in 2010? If, then.

11
January 25 2007, 1:37PM

The show needed work. Lots of work. It was nothing more than eye candy.

Stanley L. Walker
January 25 2007, 1:59PM

Yes, the DL crowd will be afraid to go to a theatre to check it out, but so what?

That reminds me of seeing BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN on opening night in DC and about nine of these "thug" types came in after the lights went down and all of them exited before the credits rolled.

So, I think they will go. But they will go in disguise or buy tickets for other movies and sneak in after it starts.

Stanley L. Walker
January 25 2007, 2:30PM

It is too early to comment or condemn at this moment. I am glad and excited about the movie opportunity and hope it succeeds. I will definitely be there to catch it and I cannot WAIT for Season 2's DVDs!

Kenneth Winfrey
January 25 2007, 2:34PM

I am Noah's Arc's biggest fan. I love what the show began to represent about Black gay men. There was much more left to say though. So many of us were left without the clearest reflection in the series.

However, there is often as much (if not more) going on behind the camera as there is in front of it. Having been labled the "flagship show," it would be illogical to cancel it without some profoundly extenuating circumstances. Therefore, I have chosen to forgo judgement against the network for cancelling the show...we may never know the real reasons why the show was cancelled.

real bro
January 25 2007, 2:38PM

Noah's Ark did not represent much of the black gay experience. It went on much longer than needed and now it has died a painful but much needed death. It was superficial, shallow, constantly sexual without much dept of soul and left much to be desired by way of artistic talents. Come with a more realistic family story that America can related to next time!

Ron Lee
January 25 2007, 2:48PM

Well wonders never cease to amaze me I don't know of any network that would take it's flagship show off and go silver screen. Did you know on a good day about 10million go to a movie theatre. A hit T.V. show can exceed that in one night. Thank you Keith for keeping us informed. Thank you Patrik Ian Polk for your creativity. Thank you Stephen,Rodney,Jensen,Christian,Doug for your courage; no matter how it ends you all made HISTORY. NOBODY CAN TAKE THAT AWAY. PEACE OUT..." IF WE CAN THINK IT,WE CAN DO IT"...Barry Gordy & Diana Ross.

Darnell
January 25 2007, 2:57PM

Well, real bro, you will be waiting the rest of your life to find a show that represents what you feel should be portrayed an authentic black gay experience. We all live it different, and just to see black men who happen to be gay, even when they are over the top as some parts of NA's was. Noah's Arc with all its flaws that some rebuked was better than nothing. So, black gay men will now be back to the invisible status, until some fool starts up with that so called dl mess, as if that represents anyone with a clue.

And, Kenneth, you are right, we will never know, and I will never pay to watch that channel again to find out why or buy anything peddled on it.

Gary
January 25 2007, 3:01PM

The cancellation of Noah's Arc is a damn shame. What a great show with such an endearing cast. I have seen all of the epsisodes. During the first season, LOGO aired the epsisodes with erratic scheduling. During the second season, I watched it religiously at 10 PM on Wednesday evenings. There is no doubt in my mind that this decision was made because of financial reasons. Even though gay black men only number 500,000 of the 300 million people in this country, I don't think that the ratings were the problem. The cost of an original production and the reluctance of advertisers to support the show are the primary culprits. Don't expect LOGO to keep its "promise" to complete a feature film. I am still waiting for the DVD version of Patrik-Ian Polk's movie "Punks", which I was not able to see during its original release. LOGO should reconsider its decision, even if it loses money.

Collin
January 25 2007, 3:23PM

THAT IS THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT I VIEWED ON LOGO. ONLY WHEN MINORITIES AND BLACK AMERICAN SPECIFICALLY OWN THERE OWN PRODUCTION COMPANIES AND MEDIA OUTLETS WILL THING CHANGE. WHERE ARE THE OPRAHS' AND BILL COSBY OF THE WORLD. WHO WOULD NOT GET BEHIND A PROGRAM THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. EACH ONE OF THE CAST MEMBERS CAME ACROSS POSITIVELY, WITH REAL LIVE SITUATIONS THAT FITS MOST BLACK GAY MAN'S STORY. WE AS BLACK GAY MEN HAVE MONEY TO SHOP AND TRAVEL. WHY NOT START OUR OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY TO SHOWCASE OUR STORY? LET'S PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTHS ARE AND DO WHAT SPIKE LEE DID BACK IN THE 80'S TO CHANGE MEDIA BIG TIME! PUT UP OR SHUT UP, MEN!

JB
January 25 2007, 3:26PM

I'm Glad that Noah's Arc was cancelled so maybe next time he focus on "REAL" issues instead of make believe bullshit. Nothwithstanding, I also wanted Logo just for Noah's Arc. But after the first season I thought to myself, this show is based on some Queens Fantasy ( No disrespect)! And it was a Wrap for me! And as for DL shows, people can related to it because it's teaching DL Brothers and Sisters how to overcome the struggle that alot of use are going or been through.

sb
January 25 2007, 3:49PM

I am a part of the minority group that feels that NOAH was silly, pretentious and poorly written. Nor did I feel like it portrayed the reality of all gay Black men, though it did touch upon important issues we face daily.
However like any good soap opera, I got hooked simply to see what shennanigans they would get into and out of that day. So obviously I have mixed feelings over it's demise. I would not miss the show, but at the same time I think that it would be a shame to deprive people of a show that they enjoy. So I say that if you really want the show to return, WRITE TO LOGO AND VOICE YOUR OPINION! Bitching about it here is not going to bring the show back. Cancelling your LOGO subscriptions will only shut LOGO down. You have to tell them WHY you are cancelling so that they get the point! Demand answers!

Jerome P
January 25 2007, 3:55PM

Well, LOGO has definitely struck out on the BEST thing that has ever started its two-year run as a network. It's sad to see NA leave the network but I will not begin to attack the network with "HATE MAIL". Simply because there are some other programs that I support as well (i.e. "Coming Stories" and "The Graham Norton Anthology").

Ed
January 25 2007, 4:02PM

I must be in the minority because I think this show is horrible and am surprised it lasted this long. Everything from the writing to acting was over the top. The characters generally grating.

Larry
January 25 2007, 4:14PM

In all this hoopla, I think it is forgotten that Noah's Arc wasn't exactly the greatest piece of Television. No matter how groundbreaking, you can only keep on turning out campy d-list mini movies for so long. And the show does have a limited audience, not a very strong viewership beyond Gay Black Men (I haven't encountered another Gay Male Minority that has ever seen the show, and I would use it as a good drinking game show). It unfortunately had the burden of being groundbreaking, but that doesn't negate the fact that the show was not good (or unintentionally funny). Let it die (and rise like a phoenix) like any good Camp Classic...actually I can't wait to see the movie...maybe I'll die of alcohol poisoning over how many times Alex(Rodney Chester) says "Gurrr" in the movie(Young gay man dies after taking 457 shots of Tequila)...Sorry that I'm not taking this seriously...at all. Shouldn't we be more concerned that James Brown ain't in the ground yet?

castiron
January 25 2007, 4:24PM

@Ed. I'm glad you said it first. I was embarrassed by the show. I really tried to like it and give it a chance, but week after week, season after season, it was of the poorest quality. The characters were grossly sterotypical. I certainly hope that they don't make a movie of this show exposing these characters. I would be further embarrased.

From reading the interviews, the actors really seemed very talented and very smart. It is a shame that they were given such weak material. Good riddance Noah's Arc.
I'm not hateful. I'm just voicing my opinion. I have no reason to hate.

lsaunders
January 25 2007, 4:29PM

I am concerned that a hit show with an all male black gay cast was cancelled in lieu of a movie. Doesn't make much sense to me. The show was enjoyable. A bunch of pretty guys with jobs doing their thing every week. How dare they do that and be black too!!

The LoveHater
January 25 2007, 6:36PM

Sounds like a buy out to me.

Karmatic
January 25 2007, 6:46PM

Canceled?? HOOO RAAAY!!

This show was an insult to Black Gay men everywhere..I saw the show for the first time on DVD at a friend's house..I was appalled by the lack of content and the perpetuation of old stereotypes..We need not accept the first piece of garbage that is thrown to us just because we want so badly to see something resembling ourselves on television..Hopefully this show's demise will pave the way for something more realistic and content filled..

CHRIS
January 25 2007, 7:32PM

IF LOGO IS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE BLACK GAY COMMUNITY BY GIVING US IMAGES OF OURSELVES THEN WE NEED TO END OUR SUPPORT OF LOGO.I URGE EVERYONE TO WRITE,CALL AND EMAIL THE LOGO NETWORK.ALSO CANCEL YOUR LOGO CHANNEL\SUBSCRIPTION DONT SUPPORT THEM FINANCIALLY.

Doug Cooper-Spencer
January 25 2007, 7:33PM

Things haven't changed, have they? No LOGO for me (they probably don't care anyway) unless they give a good reason for the cancellation. By the way, Where's my 40 acres and a mule?

H. Rhoses
January 25 2007, 7:36PM

Why don't the producers of this show sell their product somewhere else? HBO seems to have an open mind to these types of things. I am truly sorry the show is cancelled because it was a nice novelty show with a lot of good to look at guys. I will definitely send in my petition to the Logo Channel and it looks like I will be cancelling the Logo station.

Darnell
January 25 2007, 7:44PM

Wow, it seems as though all the butch, he-men and dl crowd are jumping up and down with high fives that the show was canceled. Just where do they all live? I live in a major city, and the black men I see are just normal, regular guys, who act like regular guys, none of that silly exaggerated stuff that stands out like a sore thumb, who like men. I see the girly ones as well, and the occasional dl wanna be fool with the baggy pants, doo rag and gold teeth, which is more of a joke than a man anyway. But, all this glee over a silly show being canceled, and that's what it was fun, like most shows, not something trying to get an Emmy for goodness sake or define a whole group of people. I guess the keep it real crowd wanted thugs spewing the n-word as a reflection of black gay men, and oh, not being able to speak any form of English that I would recognize.

Just to see any form of media with a postive image of normal black men was refeshing.

qtmia
January 25 2007, 8:54PM

I AM WATCHING THE 1ST SEASON OF NOAH'S ARC NOW...I AM OUTRAGED THAT LOGO WOULD CANCEL NOAH'S ARC ...IT IS SUCH A POSITIVE PROTRAYAL OF GAY LIFE!!! THERE IS NO WAY THAT I WILL EVER SUBSCRIBE TO LOGOTV ---

WE AS FANS OF NOAH'S ARC NEED TO FLOOD THE LINES OF LOGO TV --- I WILL BE CALLING AND E-MAILING THEM TOMORROW...THEY SHOW THAT DISTASTEFUL "QUEER AS FOLKS SHOW" ---THOSE DULL ASS WHITE SHOWS ---LOGO AIN'T SH_T!!!!

LET'S NOT LET LOGO TREAT US LIKE THIS!!!!

NOAH'S ARC IS SOOOO UPLIFTING FOR ME AS A BLACK GAY WOMAN OF COLOR...I OWE A LOT TO THE CAST...THIS SHOW GIVES ME STRENGTH TO BE MYSELF IN A WORLD THAT SAYS GAY IS WRONG!!!!

anotherbrother
January 25 2007, 8:56PM

all y'all applauding NA's demise needs ta have your heads examined! i mean really isn't there enuf hating going on out there; i doubt some of u are even gay at all and just want ta be apart of the mix! ANY, i mean 'any' representation of us is a good thing; the good, bad, and the ugly! but i for one thought this show made a valiant attempt at putting our BEST face FOWARD!!!

Luddite
January 25 2007, 9:11PM

Sorry Darnell, but I did not see Noah's Arc as a positive image of "normal" black men. Besides the bad scripts and even worse acting, the main character "Noah" was totally unlikeable. A main character like "Noah" who is a grown black man that is totally self absorbed, shallow, immature, and dresses and acts like a 16 year old girl is hardly a positive image. JB hit it on the head. The show was nothing more than a fantasy of some queen *cough* Ian Patrick Polk *cough*. I found it to be very disappointing. Then again I can say the same thing about LOGO. All the "gay" movies we have seen over and over, but this time with 5 minutes of commercials every 8 minutes. I would not miss LOGO in the least if it is canceled.

Karmatic
January 25 2007, 9:50PM

WHAT LUDDITE SAID!!

BLAthlete
January 25 2007, 10:00PM

"Noah's Arc" was nothing more than a gay minstrel show, just replace the shucking and jiving with "guuuurl!" and oversexed, shallow, unrealistic outrageous queenery. The idiot upthread who posted "any represenatation, good, bad or ugly, is a good thing" quite evidently is ignorant of history. Harmful, stereotypical images do far more damage than good. White gays, or even Jews for example, would NEVER praise -- or even stand for -- the first major media depiction of them being so disturbingly stereotypical. So I'm supposed to support this embarrassing crap just because it's black and gay?

All of you priasing this show have very low standards. My palate expects far better. I'm about as upset about this shit being cancelled than I was about other shitty programming like "Martin" or "The Swan" not being renewed.

Texas76132
January 25 2007, 10:04PM

This doesn't pass the smell test. The only color that matters is green. LOGO lied; and I suspect the network is near death. Apparently allot of people lied about buying the DVD because its Amazon.com sales rank was never high. If Dirty Laundry bombs at the box office(which I hope it doesn't), a Noah's Arc movie will never be made; and if the attendance is like the attendance of the workshops at Dallas Gay Black Pride, the theater will be a very empty place. Let's pray the DL types don't win and let that happen. I guess it is true, we are a non-entity because we are invisable. Maybe some people need to live a real life Billy Turner's Secret to come out. I will miss the show.

nytheatreguy
January 25 2007, 10:06PM

I am very disappointed to learn that Noah's Arc will not be returning for another season. I have no problem admitting that I loved this show from the very first episode, not because it was high-quality television (far from it) but just because it was FUN and refreshingly didn't feel the need to take on the often pretentious, back-breaking burden of Groundbreaking TV Series (i.e., message-laden episodes about HIV, drugs, etc.).

The point is, Noah did not have to be the best show on TV to still be worthy of our support. Queer as Folk wasn't exactly first-rate TV either but the gay community -- specifically white gays -- had no problem giving it 100% of their support and that's why it lasted as long as it did. Despite its creative shortcomings, I still thought Noah deserved all the backing we as a group could give and should do all we can to help the movie succeed, too (if it happens, which, at this point, I can't say I truly believe).

Tahir
January 25 2007, 10:09PM

Please share these thoughts with the network...

http://www.logoonline.com/about/contact.jhtml

Jazrok64
January 25 2007, 10:50PM

I'll go with 'you can't please all of the people all of the time' but having Noah's Arc on Logo could have opened the door for having more entertainment about us, by us out there for all to see. I sure hope it did. I hope that it inspired those writers/creators who did not like Noah's Arc to do something different, hopefully positive. Lord knows there's enough out there now to keep others afraid of Black men. I think it's interesting that since I got Logo this past September I don't ever remember seeing as much advertisement for Noah's Arc as I did for Queer As Folks. I don't think I've ever seen even a token on that other show but there was NOTHING on that show to identify with.

dee
January 25 2007, 11:17PM

Noahs arc was a great show with great character development! It sucks that it wasn't given a final season at the very least as a courtsey for garnering such a devoted fan base.

David A: Tobin
January 25 2007, 11:18PM

We have a long was to go!!!!!
The show is going to be something we look back on in 5 years and say ``look how far we have come``. We can now understand that the bad sales of the DVD is what really did the show in. All the money they put out to make little back. The chance they take now is how many of us will see the movie instead of buying on the 3 train uptown? Be glad we had it as long as we did and let us not forget the support we need to give our art and the things that tells our stories!

brian
January 26 2007, 12:09AM

it's really sad that they(white folks)cancelled Noah's Arc. I don't believe the reasons stated by Logo. Keith, I propose that you and the other 99 listed on Clik magazine's "hot list" speak for the rest of the black gay community and express to the producers of the Logo channel the ill feelings brought on by the cancellation of the show. surely they will listen to you.

J
January 26 2007, 12:14AM

I pretty much agree with everyone that as BAD(incredibly bad)as NA was, it was good to be visible, and it was a start.

Let's be honest here though.

Now the L Word has to be one of the most horrible shows ever created, but it will be on for at least another four years because straight white men and women as well as lesbians love their white lesbo action.

There's also the fact that the show is basically exactly like every other lame white drama and there's no shortage of white folk willing to tune in year after year for that crap.

Those viewers as well as those that watched Queer as Folk weren't watching NA for obvious reasons and about twelve brothers and sisters supported it, so the show tanked.

skywatcher
January 26 2007, 12:17AM

I'm really sad to see NA go, It truly was a groundbreaking show :(

Alyn
January 26 2007, 12:35AM

I can't believe it!!!!!!!!! That's really fucked up that Logo would do that!!!!!!!! We finally get a show that we all can seem to relate to and this happens!!! Bull shyt!! We need to petition LOGO. Maybe we will be heard. Cause I can't Relate to Queer as Folks which Logo seems to have on all the time!!!

Texas76132
January 26 2007, 12:56AM

I heard the interview and update on News and Notes. I'm not sure if race played a part in the show's demise, but money certainly did. From what I hear from those who were able to watch the show, it did not get allot of advertising support during re-runs. Also, I do not remember hearing any talk of the show being cancelled until after the DVD went on sale. They knew they had a budget; and they knew that slow DVD sales and lackluster download sales would not sustain the show. The answer to why the show was cancelled is in David A: Tobin's response. They should give Noah's Arc a proper ending. BTW,News and Notes has gone down the toilet since Tavis Smiley left. I did not always agree with him, but atleast he kept me interested.

Texas76132
January 26 2007, 1:27AM

I still say this does not pass the smell test. When I bought the DVD, I had to wait because they were out of stock. It was on back order for nearly a month. At the same time, people connected with the show said that DVD sales were slow and said months ago that the show would be cancelled. They were right. To be fair, the LOGO execs did promote the show organizations. It also seems odd that they would can a show that was on the verge of being a world wide hit.

Damon
January 26 2007, 1:43AM

All you people celebrating the demise of this show need a reality check. Whether you like NOAH or not, is not the point. Logo cancelling this show will make it much less likely there will be any other gay black series. Even if this particular show wasn't your cup of tea, you should have been praying for its success, because when others consider doing a blk gay show, they will look at this and the fact that it was canned after just 2 short seasons as reason to NOT do any other blk gay shows. Networks like HBO or SHOWTIME are not trying to do more gay shows. Showtime has cancelled Queer As Folk. The L Word is done after this season, and Showtime has said they are moving away from niche programming. Translation: no more gay shows! So exactly what network do you think will be doing gay black shows now? Here TV has picked up a small number of DL Chronicle episodes, but Here is even less available than Logo. So anyone viewing Noah's death as a good thing is delusional. This means no more blk gay shows ever.

Sharif
January 26 2007, 2:05AM

Well I guess my brothas and sistahs that is what happens , you see there is also racism in the gay community and when a black gay show out shines the white ones, this is the result. Anyone reading what I am writing should have common sense to know that if the TV show was not that good why would LOGO be talking about doing a film on it? Does not make sense, because it is not suppose to make sense! Well now that I know LOGO true colors, I have cancel LOGO and told my five friends and they said they was doing the same. As for DL Chronicles on HereTV, I will be waiting until it comes out on DVD because I do not want to give support (ratings)to another gay white ass network that should have already had a black gay show on it.

rowdn
January 26 2007, 2:40AM

Maybe Cadence is right cause there is no need for me to watch logo anymore. But Let me get this strait. They cancel the show that draws in the most audience so that more people will tune in? It seems to me that you should try to build your network around that night that it airs then move to the rest of the week. There was this other network that did that. What was that show called? Oh, Married with Children and it was on some network? What was it called? Oh FOX ! Seriously logo just lost a ridiculously large audience. I guess thy needed more time for ant whatever the hell he does or old ass queer as folk, Oh no I guess they want to expand borecrack excuse me wisecrack.

M
January 26 2007, 4:12AM

Maybe we will stop relying on TV/cable to inspire/entertain us.

I see big potential in local live arts/theater impromptu etc... if the black gay community is willing to encourage/nurture/support more real life local artists.

Alex
January 26 2007, 4:39AM

I seriously doubt Noah's Arc was canceled due to bad ratings. The entire channel has bad ratings yet NA was the only show to my understanding to make it to DVD.

LOGO also killed another excellent show "Open Bar." It was a reality show about a gay man opening a bar in WeHo. This series also had a absurdly small order of about 7 episodes.

I think the issues LOGO is running into is cost. They just don't have the money to continue series and I'm sure the actors of NA and Polk were rightfully demanding raises if they would come on for a season 3.

A movie could prove to be cheaper and still milk the NA fanbase one last time for MTV.

I wish we had a LOGO insider to really clear this stuff up but I think this has more to do with LOGO's lack of cash than any racial injustice. So before you rip your directTV from the wall take a deep breathe and lets get these facts straight.

Shaun A. Brown
January 26 2007, 9:04AM

I'm in shock and disbelief that the series won't be returning to Logo for another season. I think the decision was out of poor judgment on the behalf of the channel's executives. How can you jump ship when the series was a ratings success? It is obvious that, if the show was of a different color they wouldn't pull the plug on the show so quickly. I have lost all respect for the channel Logo. I'm sorry but just viewing the website I can pretty much tell that the channel is pretty dry. You best believe that I'll prebook my copy of Noah's Arc Season 2 when it comes out on June 19. It was confirmed on en.wikipedia. Love you Noah's Arc!

Landin
January 26 2007, 9:39AM

this show has no business NOT being on LOGO............if LOGO had any inkling of an IDEA that it would cancel they should have left the series on the weekly dvd route it was originally sloted for!!!!! Then it could have made the money it needed to be a big television hit........with a bigger production budget and so forth.........this was greed not on pats part but on the NETWORKS part.........they did not want to see this show do well as an independent entity!!!!!!! but we will survive!

Mikey--He Likes It
January 26 2007, 10:21AM

No TV show is going to be everything to everyone and that includes Noah's Arc. Just like Will & Grace and Queer as Folk wasn't the be all to the gay (white) community. Obviously there WAS and audience for these shows and for those that didn't relate to it you simply didn't have to watch. And queeny? The only characters on the show that exhibited any sort of queeny behavior were Noah and Alex. The rest of the cast were just normal guys so I don't get the divide here. The show had a good mix which I think is REALISTIC. The black gay community is comprised of so many different kinds of men and we should be embracing ALL of them!! The fact of the matter is this show was GROUNBREAKING (imperfections and all) just as Queer as Folk was, and I am sad to see it end like this.

Danny
January 26 2007, 10:55AM

Why are ya'll knocking the queens so much? I found NA's to be a comedy show, and while I didn't related to he Noah character at all, he is also part of the black gay experience. And, although, the fem guys aren't my cup of tea, nor are the ones who think they are all man, since, most of them scream louder than Noah in bed! Just give this black man a man who is comfortable being who he is, not what society tells him to be.

the show was good for one thing, it broke the invisibility of black gay men. After a couple of years of that DL garbage, it was good to see gay black men in a way that showed they are/were comfortable with their sexuality, which is something we won't likely see again.

Queer as Folk? Nope, that Scandinavian show with subtitles has/held no appeal for me at all. So, adios Logo, papi can use those coins someplace else.

Cadence
January 26 2007, 12:20PM

I think if we are going to write LOGO we should have our facts straight.

First: LOGO isn't tracked by nielsen so we don't know what their ratings are like. Tracking was scheduled to begin in November, after the second season of NA ended. We don't know if NA was the networks highest rated program, it was the only original scripted show, and it was the show that recieved the most mainstream press.

Second: LOGO doesn't have a lot of money or sponsors, so they couldn't produce a lot of episodes. The same is true of most cable networks. Lack of money, not lack of support is the reason for the short seasons.

Last: Race may have played a part in the decision. Mainly a show with a White or more diverse cast would bring in a larger audience, but calling LOGO racist doesn't make sense considering they didn't have to produce the show in the first place.

algie
January 26 2007, 12:48PM

^^^ignorance is bliss.racism is alive and well in this country and it is so clear that as soon as queer as folk was brought on to the network, noah's arc took a back seat

Blue
January 26 2007, 12:51PM

Damon hit it dead on ... any of you who are thinking we are going to see the other extreme of "manly men" played out on mainstream TV beyond the DL in a gay series are crazy. If you're holding your breathe, buy your burial plot now. Everything from "Law and Order" to "ER" to "Girlfriends" have covered the topic of black gay men in the last few years. And in EVERY instance, they were infecting their wives AND lovers with the AIDS virus and living a dishonest lifestyle. For all its flaws, as many have said, NA showed gay men living OPEN, honest lifestyles. Find me 10 of these "manly men' who are out of the closet and living a proud life ... to populate a show with those kinds of men is as much of a fantasy as ANYTHING we saw in two seasons of NA. I for one enjoyed NA and hate to see it go. But don't celebrate brothers, be concerned, because that's likely the last you'll see of a black gay show for many moons to come.

jared
January 26 2007, 1:10PM

Cadence, you hit it on the head. I don't think it was racism, more about money, although, in dealing with the white gay establishment, there is always that chance.

I don't see a need to try and save the show, its obvious that Logo is intending to head in a different way, and black gay men just aren't part of the equation, glad I never ordered that station, even though this year I had considered it.

And, at Danny, I agree, all this dissing the "queens" is as ridiculous as all out for why some are happy to see the show axed. I would rather see them, than some "thug" who represents nothing but the negative perception that almost anyone in the USA and the whole world for that matter has of black men

Ed
January 26 2007, 2:05PM

Darnell,
I hope you can read dis. Cuz dis nigga ain't got time fo some1 who dink cuz I din't like dis show means I want anotha ingorant sho on.

You may see a lot of flaming queens running around in your daily life but I don't. And no I'm not on the DL. Hopefully LOGO would never get rid of Homo Central High and replace it with My Baby Daddy Is A Homo Thug. One that would be as weakly scripted and stereotypically acted as Noah's Arc was.

Really, Noah's Arc could have worked. But the writers and producers wanted to take it to the lowest common denomination.

I don't want Noah's Arc. I don't want Homo Thug. I want something that show the realities of gay life. An even better concept would be for LOGO to find three seperate group of gay friends, in three different cities and follow them around with a camera for three months. OK, that idea is copyright protected!

Darnell
January 26 2007, 2:32PM

Ed, thanks for a laugh! That first paragraph I couldn't understand any of it!!

And, your point is taken, but, gay life is varied and colorful, black, white Asian or Hispanic, different strokes for different folks. Mr Polk seemed to write about his life and friends, which is what most writers do so, I didn't have a problem with it, the show was fluff, not real life, like most tv, unles its Fox news, but, thats a whole other can of worms.

But, don't worry about as you put it "Homo High," Logo will not have any sort of show geared to black gay men, queens, dl, butch or anything else.

Ed
January 26 2007, 2:38PM

Additionally, 5 years from now people will pull out those rarely viewed NA DVD's and think to themselves...

"WTF was I thinking? This show is crap!"

Right before tossing them into the recycle bin.

David
January 26 2007, 3:08PM

Ed-

Whether you like Noah is so not the point. Not every show's for every person, even if you're blk and gay. There are many who hated the show. But there were also legions who loved it. Like any show. I don't care for CSI: NY (bad writing), but there are plenty who like it. My remedy? I don't watch it!

But Noah's Arc is a special case. A show about blk gay men exclusively. The 1st of its kind. And whether you watched it or not, you should mourn its passing because it means there won't likely be ANY other show with blk gay characters at its center anytime soon. I wasn't a fan of Queer As White Folk, but I certainly understand that without that show there would probably be no L Word, etc. No network is rushing to make blk gay shows. And the only way a network today would even consider doing so is if there is an already existing show that has succeeded. So Logo cancelling Noah means that we're not likely to see another blk gay show anytime soon, if ever. If that feels like reason to celebrate, have at it.

BLAthlete
January 26 2007, 3:49PM

David, again your premise -- the the cancellation of one show in a new or limited genre means the unlikelihood of any TV shows in that same genre in the near or distant future -- is faulty and histroically incorrect, and is rooted in hysteria and hyperbole.

Check your facts. Better yet, I'll help you. "Amos And Andy" (1951-1953) -- was the beginning but surely not the end of Black comedies on TV. "Julia" (1968-1971) -- was the begining but not the end of Black female leads on TV. "Chico & The Man" (1974-1978) and "AKA Pablo" (1984) -- the beginning but not the end of Latino-starring sitcoms. "Frank's Place" (1987-1988) -- not the end of Black families in serious drama. "All American Girl" (1984) -- the beginning but not the end of Asians in sitcoms or dramas. "Ellen" (1994-1998, but she came out in 1997) -- the beginning but not the end of openly gay actors in key roles on TV.

Ostend Street
January 26 2007, 4:22PM

Here are the facts. Black Gay show is a hit. Black Gay show has adequate following to make it a hit. Black Gay show is cancelled. Whatever excuses, or dislikes, or intellectualizing any of you do will never explain the rationale of cancelling a hit show and making a movie. Let's be real. Sure money can be a viable reason for cancelling a show and so can racism.

David
January 26 2007, 4:30PM

BLAthlete:

You actually prove my point with your examples. I said "Logo cancelling NOAH means that we're not likely to see another blk gay show anytime soon." Chico and the Man in the 1970's was the first sitcom focused on Latino characters. You can't really count AKA Pablo, which didn't last one full season. The George Lopez Show didn't hit till 2001- so three decades later we got another Latino-focused sitcom. I wouldn't call 25 years anytime soon. And Frank's Place was 20 years ago. How many black family dramas have we seen? The only one that lasted more than a partial season was SOUL FOOD, and that was based on a hit film. And "All American Girl"? Are you kidding? It lasted 1 year. And we will probably NEVER see another show focused on Asians, but certainly no time SOON.

I didn't say we won't EVER see a gay black character- we will most likely see the occasional, isolated character pop up. But we won't see a show that FOCUSES ON black gay characters, where all or most of the leads are blk & gay.

holt
January 26 2007, 4:36PM

Visit Darryl Stephen's MySpace page. He provides the best explanation I've seen so far of why this happened. In a nutshell, LOGO is a new network. When a network launches of course they hope to eventually be carried in as many homes as possible. LOGO has yet to reach enough homes to be rated by Nielsen. So, there are no official ratings for Noah's Arc or any other show on LOGO. However, based on other observances - Internet activity, website hits, etc. - LOGO execs do believe NA has been a success and is their most watched program. Yet, original programming is expensive to produce - especially scripted series. The 1st season was shot in LA and had an order of 9 episodes. The writing was on the wall when the season 2 announcement came - still only 9 episodes and shooting was to occur in Vancouver. That means despite Season 1 success they still had to cut costs. According to Darryl, season 2 was still overbudget. Which brings us to now. LOGO probably figured it's better to hold off on continuing the series,

BLAthlete
January 26 2007, 4:38PM

Define "hit".

Michael Jackson's last studio album "Invincible" went to #1 and sold 2 million in the USA -- yet is considered a flop because it cost more money to produce it and market/promote it than it brought in through sales.

Kevin Costner's "Waterworld" made over $220 million worldwide but is considered a box office disaster because it cost almost that much in production, marketing and distribution costs.

Geena Davis' critically acclaimed series "Commander In Chief" was also a ratings hit. Yet it was cancelled, primarily becuase it wasn't "hitting" enough to justify its expense from the network. The show was very heavy in production and casting costs.

And BTW, when they cancelled the Geena Davis show, they made promises of a TV movie, too. The TV movie STILL hasn't happened. So don't hold your breath on the "Noah's Arc" movie.

holt
January 26 2007, 5:08PM

... develop a movie to keep interest in the concept up, and hope that they would be in a position to continue later. Meanwhile, re-airing alreadly produced programming incl. NA, short run reality shows, music videos (pre-produced), and broadcasts of comedy and awards shows, etc., are all inexpensive programming that we'll probably see the most if not in totaloty on LOGO until they reach the homes that allow them to be rated and - they hope - have high ratings to show to advertisers which will bring in revenue which they can in turn use to fund additional programming.

Another thing. Apparently S1 DVD sales were not that hot, so not much was made there. That's probably why Patrik is telling folks to make a statement by buying S2 on DVD.

I wish a more established network like BET could pick it up, but part of me thinks this is the end of the series. Two years from now the actors - and maybe even the audience - will have moved on.

BLAthlete
January 26 2007, 5:46PM

The best suggestion I have seen was by a TV/film person on an industry message board. I'll just post it almost verbatim here:

"My professional suggestion for the director/writer Patrik-Ian Polk is: go the Tyler Perry route, and sell this shit straight to your intended audience. That way, you can control the content and own it all yourself. It made Miss Perry a VERY rich (closeted, confused) bitch!"

Whether you like the show or not (and I and many others fall under "NOT"), you must admit that this IS the best route for such niche programming and marketing. I also loathe Tyler Perry's shitty plays and films, but he has an EXCELLENT business and distribution model that is envied, and puts him in a position of power and control over his own product, and brings him great wealth.

And David: I LOVED "Frank's Place". That show was truly EXCELLENT: well-written, sharp, witty, finely acted. "Noah's Arc" is no "Frank's Place". If it were 10% as good, it'd be worthy of its passing being mourned.

David
January 26 2007, 7:36PM

BLAthlete:

I'm not here to debate the merits of Noah's Arc. You're entitled to your opinion. You didn't like the show, so you didn't watch it. At least, I imagine you didn't watch it. I know when I don't like a show, I don't watch it beyond an initial viewing or two to see if it's my cup of tea.

But since you- and so many others like you- feel the need to kick the show when it's down, I will offer my humble opinion. I, and many others, did watch it religiously and really loved it. I thought the storylines were fun at times, moving at times, thoughtful at times, but never boring. Noah's Arc presented a group of intelligent, working, loving, positive black gay men. Some were flamboyant, but flamboyance in itself is not stereotypical. These characters were multi-dimensional gay black men. And you don't find those on TV everyday.

Again, this cancellation will make it difficult or impossible for another series with mostly gay black characters to be done. And THAT you should mourn. We all should.

I'm out, D.

Kev Ross
January 26 2007, 7:39PM

Well, originally Polk was going to do this show like the original gay series The Closet was being doing in Atl. He was going straight to DVD. NOW he has an EXCELLENT opportunity to sell that show from it's DVD format because it now has a brand name. Hell, our community (the gay community) buys porn, why not Gay themed shows?
I would support this effort in Noble Magazine. Would you support it?

Kev Ross
Noble
www.atlantanoblemag.com

Nathan James
January 26 2007, 9:33PM

One thing that has me wondering: LOGO's gay black viewers (who buy LOGO from their cable providers and who, by LOGO's own admission, made NA a big hit) have demonstrated, as many have mentioned, how big the demand is for shows like NA. Now, NA is a first, a trailblazer, and yet LOGO doesn't recognize what they have. It's sad.

When shows which depict gay men of color are cancelled, in spite of their success, I have to think about what is going on here, that we don't see.

BLAthlete
January 26 2007, 10:14PM

David, to me, this IS about the merits of the show, not just the presence of black gay faces.

In the 50's, there weas a popular TV show called "Amos & Andy". It pandered to many negative, minstrel-like stereotypes about blacks during a time that blacks were starting the first steps of the civil rights movement. Even though it was the first TV show to feature a black cast, and was considered "groundbreaking" for that reason alone, some (maybe even most) blacks hated the show for these reasons, while some blacks (like my parents as children) loved the show and saw it as positive.

In the end, the show was taken off the air due to protests and complaints from the NAACP and other groups.

The world did NOT come to an end when "Amos" was cancelled.

I, like, many others, considered "Noah's Arc" a modern day minstrel-like Amos & Andy show for black gay men. Many people like minsrel shows and can find the positives in them over the negative reinforcement of stereotypes. I'm just not one of them.

David
January 26 2007, 11:09PM

Sigh...BLAthlete, you really are grasping at straws here. Although you may view NOAH'S ARC as a "modern day minstrel-like" show, there were many people who enjoyed the show, loved the show, supported the show. To categorize Noah's Arc in the same category as Amos n Andy is a gross mischaracterization. There was no widespread public outcry for the cancellation of this show as there was with the obviously racist Amos n Andy. I would actually love for you to elaborate on this extreme opinion. In what ways is Noah's Arc a "minstrel-like" show? Please enlighten us. It's one thing to argue quality- to call into question the show's level of acting or production values or writing, etc. But it is quite another to describe it the way you have. But you've done it, so now- please elaborate. Break down your argument for us. I would love to hear how this show- which showed four black gay men living, loving, laughing, crying, arguing, supporting, working, etc.- is a minstrel show. The floor is yours...Wow us.

J
January 26 2007, 11:23PM

Would a network pull a show that was successful?

Would they throw away money?

The show just wasn't doing anything for them.

If it was a success and they replaced many of the characters with white actors or slowly bumped it out of its timeslot and added white gay dramas, it would be a different story.

I honestly don't think LOGO is doing that well period. Forget NA. If they don't clean out all their crap shows or land some decent programming, they're on their way out.

One of the posters quoted someone suggesting that Pat should go the route of Tyler and that person is absolutely right. For years that has been the best way and for many more that will be the best way for us to get what we want. I mean really, did Pat like watering his show down?

Nikki
January 27 2007, 12:03AM

LOGO f*cked up, royally!...It's to top rated series and you take it off?...Are they stupid or are they stupid?...This is the worse discision, EVER!...I'm boycotting LOGO...To try to appease us fans by making it a movie is unjust...For Patrik and the cast members, I'm glad that there exposure will be heightened by the theatrical front, but I'm still disappointed...It just doesn't make any sense!

Texas76132
January 27 2007, 12:34AM

Here are the main reasons why the show was cancelled.
They are directly from Darryl Stephens' blog: www.myspace.com/darrylstephens

1. It was a money issue.
2. They went over budget.
3. They were all due a major pay raise.

He said not to feel sorry for them because now they can do want they want since they are no longer restricted from taking certain jobs.

The future looks bright for all of them.

Nadia
January 27 2007, 2:31AM

The intensity of emotion here, both positive and negative, suggests that Noah's Arc was important--despite all these rabid dissenters. It's clear that contextual issues like the show's low budget and its place on an ad-supported network influenced its form. In spite of obvious resource limitations, the producers and actors completely committed themselves to the show, and they created something warm, funny, and groundbreaking. There's never been anything like it on television and I was happy to give myself over to its excesses, to read its flaws in context. It's just a shame that it couldn't find a richer home. "Queer as Folk" and "The L Word" were cringe-worthy in their first incarnations and steadily got better once they got more money. I'm sorry Noah's Arc isn't getting that chance.

Cadence
January 27 2007, 10:27AM

Algie, Queer as Folk doesn't have anything to do with Noah's Arc, except that it is cheaper to carry, since all LOGO has to do is pay a rights fee. Showing reality shows and second run shows is a lot cheaper than producing an original series, which is why LOGO doesn't have a lot (pretty much any) of original series.

nytheatreguy
January 27 2007, 10:57AM

Though I also disagree with BLAthlete's dismissal of Noah's Arc as "minstrel-like," his comments are not that different from many gays who placed a similar label on Jack, the flamboyant best friend played by Sean Hayes on NBC's Will & Grace. He, like the character Noah, was completely over the top, but that fact alone didn't make the series unwatchable. The writing and acting on Noah were not always very impressive to be sure, but things did get better over the course of the two seasons and, had they been renewed, hopefully would've improved even more.

Gays, like blacks, are eager to see as many positive portrayals of themselves in film and on TV as possible and justifiably so; however, that can't mean completely eradicating from celluloid those members of our respective communities who may not represent the best of what we are but are still very real just the same. "Queeny" men do exist and their presence onscreen doesn't automatically render a story not worth telling.

anotherbrother
January 27 2007, 11:48AM

just who is this 'blathete' calling an idiot, u are exactly the kind of gay person every authentic gay person should be warned of! the only "idiot" is the one who cant stand looking in the mirror to see himself for what he really is!! minstrel or not i dont see u making any recommendations or producing anything worthy of being put on cable or network tv; but you have a "loose" tongue about calling ppl idiots and uncle toms; who ever produced your tired ass should have been CANCELED LONG BEFORE!

JB
January 27 2007, 11:49AM

Brothers, let's not be upset that they drop N A. Be grateful that Logo gave it a chance for 2 season when other Networks didn't. Let's be honest with ourselves the writers could have focus on the REAL issues (Teenagers Committing suicide, A DL Brother Creeping with one of the main characters and the outcome of that situation, The Church incident that happen at Mt Cavery in DC, Prejudice in the work place or a Father rejecting his only Son because he is gay) the list goes on and on.
Let's be honest he fucked up! The Brother had a chance to reach out and teach and make it a good show. But instead he rather waste 3 or 4 episodes on some Crazy dude trying to still one of the Charaters Man after the Cat was with his Boy for 6 months in Africa. Or some other CRAZY UNREALISTIC mess. I mean coming on now! Also for those talking about show with black people talking with broken is no worst than A group of gay men calling each other GIrls and saying let's have a meeting in the ladies room. Both Negative stereotypes

Robin
January 27 2007, 12:12PM

JB:

Noah's Arc dealt with plenty of "real" issues.

The Noah/Wade relationship explored what it's like dating someone newly out.

Introducing your gay boyfriend to your macho friends.

Cheating lovers (when Chance caught his man hookin up on the internet- a VERY REAL ISSUE).

Dating someone HIV positive (all too real issue facing blk gay men when a large % of us may be poz already).

Professional jealousy, when one partner is jealous of another's sucess.

Gay marriage and homophobia in the black church.

DL lesbian desperate housewives.

Trying to be friends with your ex when you still have feelings for him (I'm dealing with that as I type!).

The ball scene and drag world were also featured briefly (not something that all of us are into, but a portion of our community is involved in).

So let's acknowledge that this show did address issues that are relevant to our community. And it also had some fun, frivolous plotlines too.

I'm sad to see this show go and pray the movie happens quickly.

Robin

Ronnett L. Norfleet
January 27 2007, 12:14PM

I'm very upset to hear "Noah's Arc" is no more. As a hetrosexual black woman I can see myself in "Noah's Arc".
I don't understand Logo, they air "Queer as Folk", that series was over three years old. I have nothing against "Queer as Folk" but I wish that "Noah's Arc" will recieve the same or better treatment than them. I won't watch Logo no more. Most of Logo programing is very boring to me. Getting rid of "Noah's Arc" was their biggest mistake.Every Wednesday night, I always look forward of watching my boys. I'm very upset about this.

Ebbey
January 28 2007, 1:28AM

I for one am far more unhappy with this decision than there are words to muster up. Besides the occasional movie, Noah's Arc is the only reason for me to turn my television to LOGO. Noah's Arc IS my Wednesday night. I can't imagine what the president of Logo (or those under him) might be thinking in regards to the cancellation of the show. I am hoping that this is simply another one of those vastly spread internet rumors and that we will be able to enjoy the men of Noah's Arc in our living rooms for a third season.

sad straight chic
January 28 2007, 1:33AM

like honestly...noahs arc made me know of the channel LOGO...i didnt know such a channel existed until one of my friends suggested i watch noah's arc...i can say it has changed my life...im not one to be obsessed over shows...apart from sex and the city BUT i can honestly say that i am OBSESSED with this show...i really LOVE it..PLSSSSSSSS it can't be cancelled...its not FAIR! oh im a straight chic by the way :(

Quentin
January 28 2007, 4:29PM

Well. What to say that hasn't already been stated?

As a 21-year-old, African-American, gay male, in Middle America no less...it is said that such a pioneering show went so young. That it barely had an opportunity to spread out & really show what it was capable of.

Secondly, LOGO is crap. I mean, budget issues don't cut it with me, when they have to have bought some rights to show QAF on that station. It makes me feel that blacks don't have any represenation in the gay community at large. But, I'm sure QAF re-runs will make some folks very happy.

Either way, whether you loved it or loathed it for unfair, pretentious reasons, Noah's Arc was pioneering in many fashions as we know. All we can do now is hope for the film & wonder what might have been.

shane
January 29 2007, 9:29AM

Let's keep it real men! The gay white diapora considers the black gay man to be a ripen boil on its backside. We are not given a fair shake when it comes to having our say or our issues heard. If there cannot be a oneness in the gay world, why would a DL brother want to come out? Who would support him on all levels when he does? Certainly not the white gay world. The divide is so deep between both worlds that it is quite sad indeed. White men consider me to only be a 'mandingo' fantasy for them to experience and nothing more. I am better than that! That is how they thought of us on LOGO....dispensible, shallow and triffling.

The M Word
January 29 2007, 11:41AM

Shane: "dispensible, shallow, and triffling"? Sounds the characters of Noah's Arc.

Love264
January 29 2007, 2:56PM

Kev Ross, LOGO may own the rights to “Noah’s Arc,” so I’m not sure if PIP could go the DVD route using the name w/o owning the rights to it. He would either have to buy back the rights to NA or rename it, which would be a silly thing to do. "NA” is a familiar name, so buying back the rights would be the best thing to do. The DVD route is a great idea, or he could showcase at least two epis on the web and then go straight to DVD. Doing that would encourage ppl to go out and buy the DVD’s.

VERB
January 29 2007, 5:28PM

I will admit that Season 1 featured acting so bad that the scenes were almost painful to watch. But in Season 2, I saw the actors far more comfortable in their roles and it became pleasant to watch. I agree that while it is not the best show in all of TV history, I was glad to see My young, Black gay brothers portrayed in a positive light (a rarity, esp in the Black community). I thought all the characters were likable and all reminded Me of friends of My own. I even began to like Ricky in Season 2 as he became less self-absorbed and showed that he could be a true friend. The cancellation is a sad commentary for the Black LGBTQ community.

I have emailed LOGO and also signed the petition that Frank started. Please sign it and also follow Tahir's advice and write them! Again, here's the link...

http://www.logoonline.com/about/contact.jhtml

Tell them how you feel!!!

Love264
January 29 2007, 5:29PM

Kev Ross, LOGO may own the rights to “Noah’s Arc,” so I’m not sure if PIP could go the DVD route using the name w/o owning the rights to it. He would either have to buy back the rights to NA or rename it, which would be a silly thing to do. "NA” is a familiar name, so buying back the rights would be the best thing to do. The DVD route is a great idea, or he could showcase at least two epis on the web and then go straight to DVD. Doing that would encourage ppl to go out and buy the DVD’s.

Love264
January 30 2007, 12:51AM

I’m a straight female who viewed “Noah’s Arc” as positive. It was a step in the right direction in that the characters were intelligent. They did not play up the "thug" life stereotype to which I cannot relate, although T-money was characterize as such. The point is “NA” was a show to which everyone could relate. It dealt with family issues, Chance/Eddie. It dealt with friendship, the ARC. It dealt with AIDS, Alex and the clinic. It also dealt with relationship issues, Noah/Wade; Ricky/Junito; Alex/Trey; Chance/Eddie. Overall, the show had something for everyone, and I will certainly miss it.

In regards to the stereotype: we cannot avoid it. Had the show rely heavily on DL characters, others would have criticized. The writers cannot please everyone. I for one loved the show.

BITTER
January 30 2007, 7:13PM

I am PISSED - I loved that show. The majority of other fare on Logo are lame GWM/GWF loves GWM/GWF documentaries, heavily edited movies and reruns of Queer as Folk. I hate Nemesis Rising - those gay twin twinks should be bitchslapped until blood is drawn.

Noah's was one of my fave series and I am really heartbroken over this.

Kevin Spencer
January 30 2007, 9:23PM

I too enjoyed Noah's Arc. Sure it was poorly written and often times badly acted; nonetheless it beat a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. It is a TV show. No TV show is ever going to effectively, accurately and realistically portray EVERYONE'S story, everyone's life. I personally extracted what I wanted from the show. Certainly, the show was somewhat campy nad superficial, but it was a start. Perhaps with some re-tooling, it could possibly be better. Perhaps some of you competent writers/critics can come up with something better. But I seriously doubt it will please everybody. I do hate to see it go.

Ed
January 31 2007, 9:09AM

It amuses me to see people say that the show was "poorly written...badly acted". Who admits wasting a half-hour on a poorly written badly acted show and can say "I too enjoyed Noah's Arc". WTF does that mean? If that isn't the biggest contradiction.

And others who suggest because the show broke ground by featuring gay black men dealing with AIDS, sex, fashion, and of course, how to twirl the correct way. (lol) Um.. Ok.. Sell me the cheapest bill of goods and I'll buy just because it was the first to do it.

I argue this same fact with my friends who waste their money on that god-awful Chicago Cubs team. Who waste money on a team that doesn't deliver? People don't go see the Cubs because they're good but because it's a habit of getting drunk around a bunch of people. Wednesday nights were a viewing habit for Noah's Ark fans looking for their groundbreaking fix that never came.

Marcusito-Famous Blog.
January 31 2007, 9:23PM

I know Noah's Arc was in trouble when LOGO started airing repeats of Queer as Folk. It was not fair because I know they probably lmuped the two shows in the same category but QAF has a stronger foundation then any new show on LOGO, including Noah's Arc. I know that before QAF was added to the roster, Noah's Arc was most likely the highest rated show on the network. So I bet they used that as an excuse to get rid of Noah's Arc.

Let's get real. Every time somebody talked about LOGO, they mentioned Noah's Arc. It was the only series on the show, and one of the few things worth watching on the network. Other than Noah, all the network had was some decent documentaries and a smattering of Gay B-movies. Noah's Arc has a strong fan base. The only problem the show had was the inclusion of an African-American cast. It was a "black show", not a crossover show in the eyes of the network, no matter the popularity. Anybody who has seen the upcoming lineup on LOGO can clearly smell "crossover." It's sickening.

Kilala
February 4 2007, 11:00PM

Are you kidding me...!? It's the only dominate Black tv show out there on LoGo. Everyone has heard of Noah, Alex, Ricky and Chance! My family watches it now! Well, some do... LoL. I gotta be honest, it's a cute bar, but I didn't ask for LoGo to see a show about that guy getting his bar up and going. Sounds mean or rude...? SO?! The show was made to reach out to the minority audience of the gay community! Our "Queer as Folk"!!! I don't care if its the only show people watch. You're about to lose all those people that watched your network cause you're canceling the best. You're losing ALL of LoGo's fans! Wat does the lil girl that talks to spirits have to do with gay activism!?!? Not too much!!! Now, you can agree or not... But did anyone notice the replacement of Noah's Arc for "Queer as Folk"!? Not sayin discrimination. But I've seen QaF. I'm ready for something new and edgy. I want my Noah. Dont get me wrong I love's me some Brian. But that's fishy as hell. It shoulda been the frist show if anything!! Watev

EljayAll
February 5 2007, 4:26AM

I am a Black, 46-year-old, heterosexual female, and I enjoy(ed) Noah's Arc. I am saddened by LOGO's decision to end the show. I also understand some of the criticisms of the show's real and/or alleged stereotypes. But I would like to suggest that a show with less than 20 episodes, is barely a full run. I'm old enough to remember when a TV season meant 24-26 episodes. In many instances, the cast and crew needed a full year to determine what worked and did not work. Noah's Arc did not last long enough to qualify for a six month run.

I smell a rat in LOGO's decision to end the show. Noah's Arc performed well enough to develop a loyal following--a following that has 3 petitions to save the show going on right now. If the show failed financially, then why invest in a movie prospect?!?! If it failed in viewership, then why plan to release Season 2 on DVD this coming June 2007?!?! We may have to wait and see how this cancellation actually went down.

Taj
February 10 2007, 4:57PM

It's a shame the show was canceled. I could maybe understand if it had been around for like, 6 years and they had run out of plots and things, but NOW?!?!? It's ridiculous. My hope would be that BET would pick it up, but wait...they are owned by Viacom as well. Damn.

BITTER
February 11 2007, 12:59AM

I totally disagree with some of you here who said the show is bad. Like Queer as Folk qualified as Shakespeare. NA was entertaining IMO. And several of my white friends (including my boyfriend) LOVED the show.

I won't be watching anymore because I for one have grown weary of the documentaries on trailer-park trannies with terminal diseases and the heavily-edited reruns of some really good gay flicks.

scott
February 13 2007, 1:42PM

dont count on a noahs arc movie i think logo is lying to us/to keep us quite . they send out the same form letter saying they did not cancel noahs arc. but buy there stuff they sell can you say b.s if any one knows patrick ian polk or his email ask him youll get a more honest answer

Ben
February 14 2007, 1:27PM

I was delighted to see Noah's Arc for the first time months ago when I got Logo. Quite honestly, the acting was horrible and the script was stunted at times although it was fun to see what the characters would be up to next. There was some improvement as the series progressed, but not enough to make it even a lackluster comedic soap opera. The reason I kept watching was that it was the only show depicted gay black men in any fashion and I keep watching to see what improvements would be made.

Noah's Arc greatness is not that it was a great show - it wasn't - but that it was a first. Hopefully, more shows depicted gay black society will be written and produced. With some ingenuity their calibre will be on par with any show that you could catch on other networks.

Juyon
February 16 2007, 1:02AM

I got the first season on DVD. No, i don't think any Emmys will come their way, but we got to see people who cared about the people in their lives and community, who were Gay and Black. The Black guy on Black guy action was pretty good too. I did have the hope that they would get the chance to develop the characters and scripts more. Any way, I sent a nasty email to LOGO regarding their cancelling of a show that brought them countless Black viewers. Hell, i would have never heard of LOGO had it not been for the show. So, i email them and look at what i got back in my post below

juyon
February 16 2007, 1:48AM

This is the most offensive part of their form letter reply. As if not supporting them means that i am not supporting the LGBT community.
LOGO Viewer Services wrote: The rumors that Noah’s Arc has been cancelled are false - in fact we’ve decided to take our flagship series to the next level. Noah’s Arc is set to join Sex and the City, South Park and The Simpsons as yet another fan-driven series finding a home at the multiplex, which will open the door for greater storytelling depth, expanded creative opportunities and new audiences. Currently in development, the film is expected to pick up after the show’s second season cliffhanger finale and continue with an even bolder and provocative storyline. The film will leave the door open for sequels, additional television seasons and specials...Logo is still a young network with resources that are smaller than those of larger networks so we encourage you to support Logo, support Noah and support the LGBT community.

ray
February 17 2007, 1:07AM

I've been reading these comments, and all I can say is, maybe Noah's Arc wasnt the best show on tv, but it was hardly the worst (Queer as Folk wasnt the greatest thing on the air, but it managed to stay on a long time) - all the complaints about effeminacy ignore the best thing about this show - it showed a group of black gay men who cared about each other, loved each otherand stood up for each other - where else on TV have you ever seen that? I dont believe this nonsense about making it into a movie - if LOGO didnt have the money to keep the show going, where are they going to get money for a feature film (which, unlike Brokeback Mountain, is not going to "cross over" to the general straight audience? Noah's Arc was the best thing LOGO had to offer - they need to keep it on!

Kai
February 18 2007, 11:32PM

Saw Noah's Arc for the first time today. I agree with the minstrel comparison. It's garbage. Bears little relation to real life, at least not as I've experienced it. Some of the characters should just go and get the operation done. I might watch it again as long as the T.V. is on mute. I don't doubt that Queer As Folk was probably as bad but I've never seen Queer As Folk. On a positive note, I'm happy that some black actors had an opportunity to be employed.

Nancie
February 24 2007, 9:49AM

I think that Noah is so----------- " HOT! " =]

greeneyes from the Bx
February 28 2007, 3:04PM

Thats why we need our own shows on our own cable networks instead of payin for someone elses'.Of course Noah's Arc. is not perfect, too stereotypic. Still copying the Gay(White) Greenwitch Village style ignoring the much more diverse SGL(Black).As diverse as we are as a people physically, religiously, politically,etc, we are also diverse sexually. I personally refuse to be put into the white man's S, G, B,L, and T categories. I am, we are much too complex a person/people to be reduced to their categories. I am a masculine man who likes masculine men, not DL, but who is masculine in the streets, and its nobody's business what I do in my bedroom, or who I do it with.There is nothing Down Low about it as if Up High or Sterotype Feminine, most of Noah's Arc characters...were the norm!
But we can work all of this out. Lets just see more brothers of all types just being brothers.One!

Cindy
March 3 2007, 6:09PM

I'm appalled, hurt and devestated to learn Noah's Arc won't be returning for a third season. I felt like I had been punched in the gut and Logo is telling the show's fans to go "f***" themselves. I believe it's a slap in the face and everyone has a right to be in an uproar about this. Not just gay, lesbian, or bi folk watch this show. I am a straight Black woman and know for a fact that other heterosexual people enjoyed watching the show. The least they could have done was let us find out whether Noah gets his man back. Damn!!!! I hate it when they leave you hanging like that. Well, goodbye Logo.

Vic
April 21 2007, 12:36PM

Say what you will, good or bad I love NOAH'S ARC. I saw the pilot episodes at The Philadelphia Gay and Lesbian film festival twice. I have watched each episode of the series multiple times. People can dog it, make fun of the writing , the acting or what have you. I just enjoyed seeing " my people" on the screen. That my brothers is so big. I haven't felt this way since I saw the movie PUNKS( also by Mr. Polk) Farewell to Noah, Alex, Ricky, Chance, Wade, Eddie, Trey, Junito , Dre, et al.I truly hope that these wonderful characters will return in some shape form or fashion.

Robert
May 9 2007, 11:15AM

Say it isn't so! I am a big fan of the show and I am very disappointed that the show is being taken off the air when the show has such a large following. The most successful show on the network is being made into a movie - what is that all about? Something about this decision just isn't logical. Maybe it is time for a campaign to save the show.

Stanley L. Walker
June 4 2007, 1:28PM

I take issue with the use of the word "minstrel show" to describe Noah's Arc. I must ask BLAthlete to explain, if s/he would, the justification for that. Better, you might include just what your 'take' on minstrel shows is, including what they are.

The term and the phenomena as I know them do not lend themselves to a description of any aspect of Noah's Arc. I see no lampooning nor mockery going on--rather they are celebrating, living, and loving life.

So, I must ask for an accounting on that score. (NOT on whether you like the show or not--just the use of the term minstrel show to describe it. Those are no small words, BLA.)

Stanley L. Walker
June 4 2007, 3:13PM

"Some of the characters should just go and get the operation done."

I don't remember any plot thread about surgery--what are you talking about here?

Jeff Bono
June 19 2007, 11:34PM

I discovered the show on Netflix I didnt know LOGO/MTV was running such a show since I never watch them. I love this show and now know after I finished season 2 I went online to see when Season 3 would be starting. I had no idea till today. I can promise I will advise everyone I know to never get caught up on a tv show on LOGO/MTV ever again. THEY SUCK I will share this with everyone for years to come.

Rev Dr David Farmer
June 28 2007, 12:09AM

Mr. Boykin, it clearly falls to you to tell the truth about what suddenly became of "Noah's Arc." There were creative differences, salary disputes, the resignation of a key character, or some diva-tizzy by the very talented but very unappealing creator of the show.

Jerry
July 6 2007, 9:04PM

Speaking wholly for myself, I can't say I'll miss Noah's Arc in the least.

Turner
July 8 2007, 5:46PM

I find it strangely difficult to believe this progressive television show is being canceled. I mean this was a landmark TV series dealing with the homosexuality in the black community, with an all black leading cast. Homosexuality in the black community is a topic that still remains taboo; mainstream television has opened the door for homesexuality in the white community i.e Will and Grace, Queer Eye for The Straight Gay and the Ellen show. Then along comes this Show, Noah's Arch that peered into the world of gay life for many african americans. Logo has been a channel I have supported, but I found my niche with Noah's Arc. As a black woman I could see the show being a conduit for mainstream TV to show the lives of black gays, men and women. It is a world that exits soley in bars and erotic poetry. I would like to know what the public in supporting the return in production of this show.

>
July 11 2007, 7:29PM

I was crushed to hear Noah's Arc will not be airing again. I had to run out and buy both season's. Sad to say, both got stolen from friends i'm sure that enjoy the show as much as i did. 2nd season was the worst season as far as emotions. GREAT SEASON, but worst in my feelings. I remember when i got gay bashed, and the name callings on the street, etc. etc.. season 2, surrounded my life 100%. I wish the cast much success. and I hope no, i pray it returns with season, 3, 4, 5, or more... gay lives just continue, with the harsh, hate, brutality heteros do to us, well some heteros... sorry, if i misspelled some words, but as i type read, remember and watching the show at the same time... i tend to cry.. the ending was sad...
Ricky, was great in emotions. my str8 brother watche it with me, and SAID DAMN FOO, ur just like ricky!! so I'm Latino, and live alone ith my younger str8 bro. and he even watches it with, and i take it to my cousins house and watch it with them..

GREAT JOB Noah's Arc...
YOU FUCKED UP

hstntexas
July 13 2007, 1:34AM

Why the hell would logo cancel the show but keep bullshit shows like I Love New York and Flavor of Love and etc... cause I could jus keep going if I had enough time to waste about those reject shows!The show tackled alot issues that's going on in the world about reality issues and brought laughter to the soul and heart.Very dissapointed with logo, but all the actors and the talented writer Patrick- Ian Polk yall are off the heezy for cheezy keep doing what u doing and tell logo "KICK ROCKS AND HOLLA AT YA". I'll be checking yall out later in whatever projects yall got going on!!!!!!!!!!

hstntexas!

cruiser!
July 17 2007, 3:23AM

I...Have read most of everyones comments about Noah's Arc n I respect what everyone said. I agree that the storylines n acting wasent the greatest but for the limited budgit n everything they did good. I do feel that they could have included more masculine characters b/c we are not all femenine n I feel that's the beauty of everyone being different. But, I own both dvds n I am glad the black community finally got something showing us. I wish everyone at Noahs Are the best in the future n I will keep my fingers crossed 4 a movie.

Derrius
July 25 2007, 12:14AM

It's not often that one will find positive portrayels of black gay men in the media or if at all ...I feel that Noah's Arc did this....It's such a let down when a gay network that is geared toward white gay America cancels something that blacks who watch the netowork felt so strongly about...Noah's Arc was the only reason I watched the Logo network everything else that shows on this network are Re-runs- I feel that the black gay community has no voice in television it has taken many of us generations to come out of the closet...due to wrongful depictions of black gays in the media....and in music- Noah's Arc gave voice to an other wise silent community- LOGO shows everything that pertains to white gay America where is the black voice? Where are the Documentaries about black gay youth-the DL situations that white America has become so in love with? Everything on logo is white and maybe once a month we get a show or movie- Ski Trip- was one- it was played over and over again it's time out for the silence.

mark s.
August 13 2007, 3:40PM

Once again programming that depicts blacks and especially black males in a positive role has been canceled. I enjoyed the show so much I actually felt like I was living through these characters. Not only sexaul identities were discovered and accepted but political and health issue's were addressed. It is so important that we keep a program on like this because this helps to educate both the straight and gay community. I work with alot of black men and women who are so ignorant about what it is to be gay in america. I mean come on who would'nt want to fall in love with all the Wade's in the world. HOTTTTTTTT, This program will be highly missed by me and my friends all over the world.

Jarred
August 16 2007, 4:44PM

Okay, if they are trying to appeal to a larger loyal fanbase by making the series into a movie...How exactly does LOGO think that's going to play out? I just recently found out this show existed from browsing DVD's at an online store.

Reading this, and seeing that there is speculation that alot of people only had LOGO because of NA...so canceling it brings in more viewers? What sense does that make? All that's going to happen is that people are going to get pissed that the show is off the air and cancel their subscription since the only reason they got the channel is gone. A few more brilliant decisions like this and LOGO is going to have to shut down completely...and that will bring even MORE viewers...dumbasses

Step
August 19 2007, 1:57AM

im a straught black female and i love the show so much that i put both seasons on my i pod please please we need a third season what am i to do?

Shell
August 24 2007, 12:41PM

I am also a straight Black female that absolutely loved this show from the start. I am still shocked at how abruptly the show ended. Something is definitely not right with the picture. Someone mark my words that Logo will have a show with the same concept on soon but with an all White cast. I don't even understand the concept of making a movie out of it. Noah, Alex, Ricky, Chance and Wade will have to live in our memories because Logo is not bringing this show back. Something went down and maybe one day Patrick Ian Polk will tell us his side of the story.

Richard
September 1 2007, 1:52PM

Okay, folks. I'm an old gay white guy (in my sixties) and I just recently found LOGO when I switched to Verizon FIOS TV. I was blown away by the NA series and only just learned there were no plans for a third season. What a blunder by LOGO. This is so disappointing. I really don't see NA making it as a movie - like somebody else said, a DVD maybe, but my generation straight white folks just wouldn't get it, IMHO. I hope for the best for all the actors in the series and please, please, please Patrik-Ian Polk - you are a talented writer and the world needs to see your work, so please keep it up. Shows like NA have the potential to at least turn some of my generation's gay white guys opinions about talented gay black guys in a positive way. I know it sure has mine. Good luck to the cast and to Polk. I hope you have successful futures after NA.

Richard
September 2 2007, 12:07PM

Okay, folks. I'm an old gay white guy (in my sixties) and I just recently found LOGO when I switched to Verizon FIOS TV. I was blown away by the NA series and only just learned there were no plans for a third season. What a blunder by LOGO. This is so disappointing. I really don't see NA making it as a movie - like somebody else said, a DVD maybe, but my generation straight white folks just wouldn't get it, IMHO. I hope for the best for all the actors in the series and please, please, please Patrik-Ian Polk - you are a talented writer and the world needs to see your work, so please keep it up. Shows like NA have the potential to at least turn some of my generation's gay white guys opinions about talented gay black guys in a positive way. I know it sure has mine. Good luck to the cast and to Polk. I hope you have successful futures after NA.

Loreene E. McGougan
September 4 2007, 7:55PM

I'm so sad to hear that Noah's Arc (the Series) will not be returning to Logo. I've watched every episode and thought the show was delightful, colorful energy, dramatic, funny, sexy, just a wonderful show all around and I looked forward to each new Episode. The Actors had such a great chemistry w/ one another.
I'm confused at why a show as enjoyable as Noah's Arch, has to go away and plus, you left your audience, hanging on the edge of a Cliff because there was no resolution in the last episode. Why would you do that? it wasn't very nice and I'm so disappointed.
Well, if you do have a movie about Noah's Arch, I hope it is as good as the Series.

CJ
September 19 2007, 8:50PM

I am just speechless. A friend of mine introduced me to the show last year. I hadn't even heard of the LOGO channel until she introduced me to the show. I loved that show. I can't believe you would turn that show into a movie so early? It's too popular to be in the movieplex right now. I not sure if I would be interested in seeing it on the big screen. LOGO you got it wrong and you will pay the price for it!

Justin
October 8 2007, 5:16AM

First of all this show was doomed from the start. Alot of people keep saying that Queer as Folk lasted for years so why couldn't Noah's Arc, yeah thats true thats because they had loyal fans. It was also an channel that wasn't hard to find or get. Barely no one has Directv majority of us have cable. Also Queer as Folk had better actors they dealed with real situtions the truth in another words. I blame it on the the fans you'll let the show go no one else did. If a show is a hit do you think they would cancel it. The only reason Queer as Folk lasted because people actually watched it, the show has some good writers but the quality is poor it feels like i'm watching a home made movie. When i'm watching queer as folk i feel like i'm looking at someones life not somebody's fantasy.Everyone is to sexed up and to damn fine for it to be real thats why it failed and the movie want do good either lol.

Thaddus
October 10 2007, 2:19AM

I am a bi sexual male and Noahs arch is no just about gay men its just about probles that everyday people go through the maine people just happen to be gay Please please please put it back in the Lword is not cancelled how do you explaine that

keith
October 11 2007, 6:52PM

I am sorry to hear there won't be a third seasons of noah arc. I really enjoy the show and can relate to the show

TheRealistTX
October 22 2007, 1:47AM

WOW, I seem to be a little late when knowing some things. Although you have to remember that I am from Texas. Noah's arc no matter what people opinions were about it changed the way gay, straight, and bi people thought about relationships in general. I constantly saw Noah in me throughout his circumstances and situations, but now we will never know if Wade died or not. So sad, but may all the Noah's Arc characters live on in us!

emarie
October 24 2007, 5:11PM

Noah's ARC -- I will miss so much. I will be watching for the movie and will go to see it.
I have known people who are like the characters so I looked forward to Wednesday! Now I just go to bed early.

Orlando
October 26 2007, 10:10PM

I'm so hurt! I watched the Noah's arc Marathon on LOGO the other night and was instantly wanting more. It's a shame that this REALLY GOOD BLACK show is off the air. I hope LOGO would really reconsider this decision. In general television doesn't have any really good predominately black charactered shows and NA was a breath of fresh air. I wish all the actors of NA great success in their new endeavors. YOUR FANS WILL MISS YOU.

roxey122
October 28 2007, 12:16AM

I'am still Shock, I think Logo has Made a BIG MISTAKE.
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