Steelers Player Calls Opponent A Fag

carlos
December 9 2006, 11:42AM

Joey Porter's agent said the outspoken linebacker regrets calling Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow a derogatory name for homosexuals after the Steelers' 27-7 win over the Browns on Thursday night at Heinz Field.
Porter, upset about what he said was a late hit by Winslow on Steelers linebacker James Farrior, lashed out at the Browns tight end after the game.

"He realizes that he picked the wrong word," said Jeff Sperbeck, who spoke with Porter on Friday. "It was not intended to offend any group or anybody."

When asked if he thinks the NFL will fine Porter, Sperbeck said, "We don't expect them to."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/guestcolumn/s_483393.html

chicagoangel
December 9 2006, 12:33PM

he meant what he said and people know that. He called him a fag? Was he referring to someone who is homosexual as a fag? If not then whats the problem? Only fags get offened when they are called fags.

milt7
December 9 2006, 12:36PM

It never ceases to amaze me, that very public people such as in the case, and athelete, wants to bash gay folks . It sickening,immature, and just down right dirty..He things that he can make judgements, and remarks, such as he did, just because he is supposedly as "Successful Football Player"...what is that?

milt7
December 9 2006, 1:25PM

@Chicagoangel..

yeah Chicagoangel, I agree with you one-hundred percent.
Joey Porter meant exactly what he said, and knew Very well what he was saying about this man, and about SGL people.The statement was meant to be a "ONE-IN-THE-SAME" INSULT.

Jeff Hobbs
December 9 2006, 1:31PM

This guy is probably a 'fag'! Takes one to know one right? Hell the best player in football is gay. I know that personally!:)

Byron C. Mayes
December 9 2006, 2:07PM

How curious. As I read Keith's post complaining about some jock with a limited life exposure, a limited arsenal of words at his disposal, and no doubt no where near as worldly as everyone reading here using the word "fag," I see an advertisement to the immediate right for "RealJock: The smart site for gay jocks, queer athletes, and fit faggots."

There's also an ad for DList.com "like MySpace for fags but better."

Keith, you might want to see who's buying ad space before you post, eh?

Byron

Mark Norris
December 9 2006, 3:17PM

All I have to say is that just like the whole worlds wants Michael Richards to make some sort of amends to the African-American community, So should Mr. Porter do the same to the Gay community. And where is Jesse Jackson calling a press conference to ban this word????

Matt
December 9 2006, 3:38PM

If I were a straight man calling someone a fag, I would be self conscious about my earrings too.

Ty
December 9 2006, 5:16PM

My take on it, he meant to say it, and its sort of ridiculous that he would get into the very homosexual terms that they use, tight ends and wide receivers, but, that's for the sporting folks to discuss. And, why is it that its always the most unattractive men who make these sort of ignorant comments? I'm surprised that he didn't start with those nonsensical bible quotes that these pick your sin to bash, usually gays, selodom drug dealers, and children born out of wedlock, black "celebrities" like to throw out. As far as being called a "fag" doesn't bother me one bit, loud, out, proud gay black man, so, no low class semi-literate hood rat with a few coins in his pocket now that he won't have in 10 years, can bring me down by saying it!

cmoney
December 9 2006, 5:23PM

I'm with you Matt. Were those clip on earrings? He loses all princess points if they are.

Chicago Angel
December 9 2006, 5:53PM

Did he call a gay/bi/trans dude a fag? I failed to hear it.

nova
December 9 2006, 5:55PM

Keith, with all due respect, I understand that he (and the rest of the world) need some sensitivity training but giving this man the time of day is a waste of HTML. This would be more of a story if he were a politician or a man of the cloth, but an ATHLETE? Seriously? A HOMOPHOBIC ATHLETE is news? Honey, they are as common as opinionated bloggers.

I'm not trying to minimize the gravity of what he said by any means. But this fool ain't on my radar. I don't care what he says, that's HIS ignorance and HIS journey. If I thought I could fix him I'd give him the time of day.

playboyadonis
December 9 2006, 6:25PM

If you play football on the field or on Playstation/XBox, then you will one day be called a "fag" by your opponent. Not that it is acceptible, but, people who come from "the hood" or the ghetto use different "derogatory terms of endearment" than most other folks.

Now in the big scheme of things, Porter should have used judgement and chosen a different word and that is why he should be fined for his looseness. You have to know when and where to say the right things especially in a professional situation. I don't think Porter is anti-gay, he was simply overheated and chose to stick to his roots by the way he handled it.

"Kellen is a fag!" = "Kellen, your game sucks-bitch!"

Cleveland Brown's Tight-End Kellen Winslow took his comment like a champ. And that is what should be highlighted.

Does Porter have a history of calling out fags, queers, or gays?

Clientel
December 9 2006, 6:42PM

"people who come from the hood" or the ghetto use different "derogatory terms of endearment" than most other folks."

While I've never lived there, I don't believe "fag" is used as term of endearment in the hood or the ghetto. It is always a put-down unless used by other gay men. He knows that to call a man, especially a black man a fag is considered the ultimate in disrespect. That's why he said it. The sad thing is that the NFL isn't doing anything about it as to set an example so that it doesn't happen again. Keith, you must get tired. Fighting for gay rights and respect seems like a never ending battle which really ISN'T being won. The world seems to be getting more and more homophobic. It's really quite tiring.

Stuart
December 9 2006, 8:25PM

Well, I'm not gay myself but I don't "gay bash" or spread hating in any way... but I really have to draw your attention to a couple of adverts on the side of this website...

Quote: "D.J LIST.COM: LIKE MYSPACE FOR FAGS BUT BETTER"

and

Quote: "REALJOCK: THE SMART SITE FOR GAY JOCKS, QUEER ATHLEATS AND FIT FAGGOTS"

O.K so to my point.

I think it would go a long way to stopping this kind of commenting if you would actually not use these terms YOURSELVES on sites like this...

This is falling into the same catagory as black people calling each other niggers and then screaming racism when a non-black person does it.

And yes I am a Steelers fan and a Joey Porter fan... but not for reasons like this... I simply like how he plays.

peace.

Chicago Angel
December 9 2006, 9:31PM

Put em on BLAST!!!!

Always talking bout "uplifting gay folks" but got adds using the very words that are used to hate on us. SAD!

playboyadonis
December 9 2006, 10:23PM

OK...There is no excuse for someone's behavior that is callous and uncalled for. No excuse at all.

Now, in terms of the ads, there are some people in the gay community who refer to themselves as being a fag. Without problem. I personally don't feel that way. But some guys like to be called fag, especially while they are having sex. Its like having kinky sex with a women who likes you to call her a whore. "Take that dick you little whore".....

I mean, you can't say if Porter was being anti-gay unless he has a history of being like this.

Then there is that area where certain people should not use certain terms. Like the word "Nigga". Many black people use the word when referring to each other. However, When Michael Richards used it, every black person felt like the white world was against them.

It is a touchy subject any way I try to look at it.

Could it be that Porter is showing that he was psychologically abused as a child, daddy called him a fag, as he puts his earring in his ear?

texas76132
December 9 2006, 10:40PM

I found ironic to watch Joey Porter call someone fag while he putts on his earrings. Who are NFL players to make moral judgments against anyone? The Cincinnati Bengals are wife beaters. The Tennessee Titans are thugs, and the Dallas Cowboys can’t drive around town without crashing their cars or getting shot. I have seen Kellen Winslow Jr. and he is a fine man. His parents did a good job raising him.

Jabari
December 9 2006, 10:49PM

Just because some gays call each other "fag", or some women call each other "bitch", or some blacks call each other "nigger" doesn't excuse the flippant and arrogant use of these terms by those who may not mean harm, but usually care less if they do end up offending people. If my brother playfully calls me "dumbass" from time to time, or even daily, that doesn't mean I want my neighbor calling out, "Goodmorning, dumbass!" when they see me. Did that make sense?

I think the bigger issue is why is weakness so easily associated with male homosexuality that grown men need to critique another man's lack of heart or skill, or cowardice, or whatever "weakness" by calling him fag? Wtf are you, fourteen? I'm sick of discussing bullshit like this.

Steve
December 9 2006, 11:00PM

Mark Norris: I am with you. Where is the outrage we saw directed at Richards? Porter should have to apologize as many times for what he said. Not just to Winslow, but to all of us. I predict this will be quietly swept under the rug, however, as yet another stupid fucking athlete is given a pass for being an idiot simply because he can catch a ball.

Porter is now on my shit list.

Kofi
December 10 2006, 12:12AM

erm....was it my imagination or did he not spend most of his time during the interview fixing his earrings? Helloooooooo

LaFontaye
December 10 2006, 12:49AM

Joey Porter, "how you doin'?"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u4cdb8i64zQ

playboyadonis
December 10 2006, 1:11AM

I guess there are people in the gay community who truly feel hurt behind these kinds of acts. And there is no way of easing that pain.

My dad used to call me a fag when I was around 10 years old and I had not even had sex with a guy yet. My mom is filipina and he is black. So the black community is constantly at each others throats to the point where they don't see how their actions affect other people.

I don't think any apology would heal this behavior. Fine him, sit him on the bench, but nothing can take away his troubled past which is why he is acting out like this today.

It starts at an early age. We can't change hard-headed adults, but we can set an example for the younger generations.

J
December 10 2006, 3:45AM

I'm looking at a man who has obviously been to a salon and had his eyebrows lightened. His beard appears to be shaped and defined with a pencil. I can't take this seriously, and no one should be offended just as no one should be offended when 50"pancake makeup"Cent says something homophobic. These same dudes are in the club every single night begging for blessings in the bathroom.

If anything it sounds like dude wants him.

"That's what fags do. He's soft. He wanna be tough, but he's really soft and delicate like one of these sexy females. He tried to give me a handshake before the game. He's soft, so silky. He might want to play receiver, yeah. I wanna f*** you f*** you, you already know."

Jeff Hobbs
December 10 2006, 4:27AM

Maybe hes trying to take the focus off himself and put it on someone else. Keep it on the down low no one has to know!:)

Mitch
December 10 2006, 7:10AM

That fine ass, cute NBA PLAYER has set us forward 100 years! Aman for integrity and truth!

Clientel
December 10 2006, 10:04AM

Ok, fellas...you're reaching just a touch. In reality we know earrings and all this other silliness doesn't mean the brothers gay or hiding anything. It's just todays fashion. That just turns a valid complaint into silliness. The point it prejudice. This brother made a purposely derogatory remark that is used far too often today and he should be held accountable. If not him, then the NFL for allowing it to go unchecked. I suspect the reason he won't be fined is because most in those circles don't find the word offensive. They share the aame sentiment. NOT ALL, but most. There was a time that I looked down on the supposedly down low/closeted/it's nobody's business type brothers. I now understand why so many stay in the closet. I can see that for many coming out would cost too much physically, emotionally and financially.

Ty
December 10 2006, 10:43AM

Big dangly earrings, an inability to insult someone in a coherent manner, just another hood rat, and a not so pretty one at that. Winslow is a smooth kind of guy who has an "eduracation" and a clue due to a good upbringing, so, he will let this "man" with a poor self esteem, and issues with his own masculinty make a fool of himself and that's about it.

And, for Playboy, sounds like it was hard for you being a kid if your dad was calling you names, but, it seems like you have persevered and are living your life for you, which is a good thing, since many carry that sort of abuse into adulthood and have all sorts of problems from it.

playboyadonis
December 10 2006, 2:33PM

...Ty...thanks. It was not easy growing up especially since my dad was black and I was this mixed light skinned kid with long curly hair. He talked bad about me and physically abused me too. I had to be strong at an early age and I learned early on that I was responsible for my own happiness.

Looking back, its hard to forgive him...we don't speak now and I don't know if he or my mom are dead or alive...but I wonder how could any dad abuse the kid I see when I look at my old childhood pictures.

I guess that's why I have issues with trust and true love. He was supposed to be the one person I could look up to but it was him who had mistreated me the most.

Shabaka
December 10 2006, 3:33PM

He meant to say that Kellen is fine...But just couldn't say it on TV. So he chose the word "fag".

Blue
December 10 2006, 6:58PM

Why give this asshole the time of day? Everybody knows how these ignorant ass, no count jocks are. Why is anybody shocked? The shit probably happens all the time; this guy just happened to get caught out there. Don't even give him the attention. Like I always say, I'm never surprised by anything that comes out of straight black man's mouth.

dan
December 10 2006, 7:26PM

interesting, especially when use of the N word is the ultimate No. And i agree with that. Same for the F word. At the same time you can't equate the use by those of the respective communities. It has a very different power and purpose when someone outside the community uses it. So for all those who quote tha gays for using the F word, remeber the context. We don't get excited when those in the african american community use the N word, they have that right. Just the same the gays can use the F word as it relates to themselves--when it is used as a slur that is completely different.

Clientel
December 10 2006, 8:18PM

On a lighter note, I'm sure Kellen is not upset. This old youtube clip reminds us that Kellen is a "F'king soldier." (LOL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X60mrYO1UU

J
December 11 2006, 1:16AM

I don't think it's a stretch. When someone makes it a point to say something of that nature, it says a lot about who they are. Some people will make their homophobia known. Others who's lives are in no major way affected by expressing that choose to remain silent.

There are a million things this man(standing there in his granny earrings and cotton candy pink colored thongs no doubt)could have said about this player, why that?

Luddite
December 11 2006, 9:40AM

Byron Mayes you hit it right on the head! A website for "Fit Faggots"? Interesting choice of words. I look forward to Keith having a website for "Fit n-word". I wonder how that would be received by folks on this site.

It's kind of difficult to get riled up about a young ignorant athlete calling someone a fag when the word is supported on this very website.

Cocoa Rican
December 11 2006, 3:30PM

Yeah..yeah... see you in the locker room pa... LOL
Cut the crap, with all the azz tapping, kissin' and shyt that goes on, it's no wonder y'all just don't have a Blatino party before each game.

BLK_PHD
December 11 2006, 3:32PM

I didn't know Kellen Winslow was so.....FINE!!! But he cocky as hell...but damn he fine!!!

Cousin
December 12 2006, 8:28AM

FACT!

Joey Porter have little man meat (trust me on this)

FACT!

Kellon Winslow is Fine.

Mikey-He Likes It
December 12 2006, 10:37AM

Well Kellen Sr is fine which is where Jr gets it. Anyhow, football players throw around the fag and bitch (azz) words like water when THEY'RE ON THE FIELD!! Joey made the mistake of using the word while having a mic and camera in front of his face (dumb & dumber while sos!!) And how ironic while putting on his earrings. I thought the wig and lipstick were coming next. I agree with Jabari who wondered why these players so easily equate weakness with male homosexuality to begin with. It takes a whole lot more strength to be black, gay, and out in this world than they can ever muster!! Personally I think many in the NFL are bi. So Mr Porter if you want Kellen there are much better ways of letting him know.

yeahisaidit
December 13 2006, 2:20PM

...hey keith or to those it may concern...the website towleroad.com covered this same story also with the blog ad from REAL JOCK.com for "FIT FAGGOTS" in the margin, and after being called on it, like with your observant posters here, modified the advert ommiting that particular phrase...could you please consider following suit? please take note though, this is not a demand, it is your site, it's a request...i'm just asking....

Kayode
December 14 2006, 6:34AM

Bless Her!!!
Did anyone else notice how she was fiddling and adjusting her earrings while continuing to bitch about a so call "Weak Fag".
It reminds me of my sister bitching about the woman she hates at work.

She's once twice three times a lady.....Me thinks the Lady doth protest too much!!

PS
Being English I'm not familiar with the rules/dress code of American football BUT

What's with the bare midrift on the Pitch?

Steve
December 15 2006, 7:40AM

I am disgusted with all y'all. Faggot is given a pass because a dumb fuck jock, who also happens to be black, tosses the shit around like it's candy. Just a week before you were all up in flames over Richards screaming nigger. Tsk tsk. Your double standard is showing. This was just as bad, and as I predicted the dumb fuck athlete got away with it, and we were all victimized once again. Only this time, we're fine with it.

Remember the old saying "Can't rape the willing." Well, y'all fit the bill.

Pathetic.

nreeldeep
December 15 2006, 9:57AM

When Michael Richards made his racist rant I wasn't victimized because I CHOSE not to be. When Joey Porter called another player a "fag" I wasn't victimized because I CHOSE not to be. It's as simple as that. I have more pressing things to concern myself with.

I decided a long time ago not to RELINQUISH my power to another man in that manner. It's made all the difference in terms of my peace of mind.

By the way, the brotha WAS fined by the NFL to the tune of $10,000. That may not be much, but I bet the next NFL player who sets his lips will think twice because the fine will no doubt go up for the next offense.

KB
December 16 2006, 3:05AM

I'm not offended by Porter using this word; I'm offended by his "apology" that it was ok because it was only directed at one person. So if I call someone a nigger, I can excuse myself because I was only directing this word at an individual?

Aside from that, he didn't mean to offend "nobody." What an imbecile.

Steelers Fan
January 20 2007, 7:27PM

Hell with it. Winslow brought it on himself with his cheap shot. You folks need to get over your ultra-sensitive whining. You're acting like a bunch of fags.